[ SECRET POST #2929 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2929 ⌋

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Comments

[loracarol]

I haven't read the books in a while, but didn't he realize that was shitty by the time he was a teacher? Or was he still pretty magic-racist as a teacher?

[(Anonymous)]

na

I don't recall him being racist as a teacher (but I haven't read the books in a while either). I'm not sure if he ever actually genuinely believed in Death Eater ideals though. It seemed mostly like he was just desperate to fit in with someone and went along with what the other Death Eaters in his house said (not that this makes the situation any better or excuses his actions of course. he was still a shit head whether he truly believed in the cause at some point or not)

[loracarol]

Yeah, I remember him being an asshole to Gryffindors in general, but not specifically because of magic-racism.

And yeah, it really doesn't make it better to me, to be honest; I think the fact that he did call Lily the slur indicated that he did internalize some of their ideals somewhat, even if he hadn't meant to, but in the end, he still joined magic-nazis, whether or not he truly believed in the cause.

[(Anonymous)]

He evidenced no strong feelings one way or another about the overarching concepts surrounding pureblood superiority.

[loracarol]

So he was just a bully as an adult, not a racist-bully.

Makes sense.

^not sarcasm

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that poster was advocating for Snape, just stating a fact. Snape didn't seem to hate muggleborns but his father was a muggle and seemed to be an abusive douche. So, Snape could have gotten some hatred of muggles because of his home life.

[loracarol]

That's nice?

I mean, that makes sense, that's why I said so, and added that it wasn't sarcasm.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, I've always wondered why Dumbledore never reined him in. Surely the headmaster had to know how Snape was treating his students. And no, I don't think Snape was a 'racist' teacher. I don't recall there being an instance in canon where he treated anyone differently because of their blood status, only their House status. He seemed to be an equal opportunity Gryffindor hater.

[(Anonymous)]

It would have been interesting to see how Snape dealt with his Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw students. Does Snape have a default mode when taken out of the Slytherin/Gryffindor dynamic? Would it have depended on who the students were related to? Outside of situations that don't directly remind him of his adolescence, does he even give a shit?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Fascinating question. I've often wondered this as well. Unfortunately, we only ever really see Snape from Harry's POV, except when he's visited by Bellatrix and Narcissa, and again when he's at Malfoy Manor. Nothing in either scene really tells us how he feels about anything—except that he loathes Pettigrew, but who doesn't?

[loracarol]

The only thing I can think of is that he tried, but then Draco found out, and Draco's dad put the pressure on the minister to get Dumbledore to stop "forcing" Snape to "ignore the bullying from the Griffyndors" or something similar. I mean, we've seen in canon that Dumbledore isn't actually all-powerful, and he doesn't have total control over the school (the hippogriff being killed, even if time turning prevented that, Umbridge, etc.)

But yeah, that's what I figured; if he was still secretly racist, it wasn't something that he brought up in his classes, I don't think.

[(Anonymous)]

Because Dumbledore is an asshole too?

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure Dumbledore didn't rein him in because he knew Voldemort would come back some day and Snape would need every bit of reputation he had.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure somebody calls somebody else a mudblood at some point, and adult Snape is all "DON'T USE THAT WORD!" So, unless that's a fanfic I'm remembering, I'd say he got over his racist tendencies.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's in Deathly Hallows. The portrait of the Black director calls Hermione a mudblood.

[loracarol]

I'll take your word for it! I honestly don't remember, but it does sound a little familiar, I think?

[(Anonymous)]

Although it's worth asking--does he hate the word because it's a Magic-racist word, or because it reminds him of how he drove away Lily?

[(Anonymous)]

I always read it as the second tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

Can't it be both? Can't he hate the word both for what it did and what it represents?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think he ever used racist language or did anything anti-Muggle as a teacher. He was an enormous shit in other ways and was an unfit teacher, but I think after using that word against Lily he'd finally learned his lesson.

[loracarol]

Hmmmm, I'd disagree, since he didn't actually stop being a magic-Nazi until after Lily died; I don't think using the word to Lily alone was enough to make him learn his lesson.