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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-12 05:38 pm

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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-01-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. It's hard to think of another sitcom recently that's more committed to positivity as a basic tenet.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Brooklyn 99...which happens to come from the same people who produced Parks and Rec.

I mean, for Brooklyn 99 you need to get beyond the first four episodes or so. The characters started clicking with episode five in season one, which was about the squad coming together to defeat "The Vulture." After that, the episodes started cleaning up the initial messiness of the first four episodes.

I guess it shouldn't be surprising. It took Parks and Rec all six episodes of season one for it to become what it is.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-01-12 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I was thinking of mentioning Brooklyn 99, but I think it's somewhat less committed to positivity than P&R. Maybe because it often feels like, where P&R was just trying to do its thing, B99 almost feels like they're trying to do a retro thing - going back to a lot of old-school sitcom styles.

Which I love, don't get me wrong! It's just a different emphasis. I love Mike Schur / Ken Tremendous, I love B99.
Edited 2015-01-12 23:33 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, no! I 100% agree. Where Parks and Rec had likeability and decency being the point of it from maybe the first third of season two onwards, I almost think that B99 kind of attacks it from a different angle.

It's like...the characters themselves are likeable, but they have their moments where they can be real jerks, too.

I also want to add: Bob's Burgers is another one where the main characters are all likeable and decent people. You just have to hang in there until episode six's "Sheesh! Cab, Bob?" to really bring that point home.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 for Brooklyn 99. Love that show to pieces.
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[personal profile] hwc 2015-01-13 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I love Brooklyn 99, but couldn't get into Parks & Rec at all. Like OP I didn't find anyone likeable, which is why I quit after three or four episodes. In contrast, I love everyone on Brooklyn 99 and it's my favourite comedy show at the moment. It's my TV highlight of the week.

As for positive sitcoms, isn't Community supposed to be that? Like P&R I couldn't get into Community at all, but what I've seen from gifs and around fandom I thought Community avoided cringe humour as well.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Community avoids cringe humor but its characters are IMO much, much less likable and much more critically flawed than P&R's characters

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think the Community gang are quite likable. They're all different, but they get along well, and it works.

Pierce and Winger are jerks to varying degrees.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
DA

My dislike of nearly every Community character is the main reason I started losing interest around the third season. I enjoy Abed most of the time, and Troy some of the time, but the rest of them are incredibly irritating and grating to me. There's no accounting for taste, we really can't control what we find likable and what we don't. For example, Annie would probably be a legitimately likable person in real life, but on-screen, she annoys the hell out of me.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Abed and Shirley are the only characters in Community I find at all likeable.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
I gave up on Parks & Rec after two episodes because, like you, I found the characters unlikeable and cringe-worthy, I just couldn't watch it. I fast-forwarded most of those two episodes.

I gave it another try on the insistence of a friend. She advised me to skip season one completely. It's like it was a different show. The characters from Season two and onwards are completely different people. They are funny and quirky and loveable. Now, it's one of my favourite shows.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
na

Yeah, I think Parks and Rec is one of the only shows where I frequently tell people to just straight up skip season one and read summaries about the first season instead. It's almost astoundingly bad. Season two was kind of rocky for a while too, but it was definitely and improvement and then it just kept getting better imo

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
I found Community's characters all unlikeable, some horribly so. I was so disappointed.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The big problem with P&R is that it didn't hit its stride until season 2. I initially quit after a few episodes, too, but then I happened to see an episode from the middle of s2 and it was like watching a different show.