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⌈ Secret Post #2937 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

For mpreg, it depends.

Technically speaking, one could theoretically implant an embryo into a male body and there's no reason it couldn't grow. Extrauterine pregnancies have been carried to term, for example. Hella dangerous though.

If someone is born with male reproductive capacities and then can get pregnant, through some sort of weird science, then it wouldn't bother me so much.

But the omega-verse kind of weirds me out because it seems like it's just taking traditional women's role sand re-labeling them for males while often getting rid of women altogether. Women do exist in these fics, but often they're just supporting characters and completely nonsexual.

It's just weird to me. Especially with how stereotypically patriarchal omega verse is often written.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

You sound like someone who hasn't read much omegaverse fic. There's the standard omegaverse you'd expect, but there's so much more that subverts the roles, and most of the actually good fic is of the kind that takes this expected setup and gives it a twist. In exactly the same way that you'd roll your eyes at standard romance stories, but most good fic takes that and plays with the tropes.

Have you ever read f/f omegaverse fic? Do you know it exists? "Omegaverse" is a construct in the same way "dystopia" is, or "BDSM universe" is. How much an author sticks to the standard setup varies wildly and usually the interesting parts are where they do vary from the base.

[(Anonymous)]

My point, again, in brief, is that you are paying a huge amount of attention to the biological mechanisms of the change here, and that these mechanisms are basically unrelated to the reasons people read and write this stuff, which can be summed up as "they think it's hot when dudes with penises get pregnant and have babies".

Which is why I don't think it makes sense to be concerned about women's roles, because it's a very specific kink within slash fic. And f/f and m/f omegaverse fic does exist, so it's hard for me to believe that this is intrinsically rooted in some kind of sexist urge; it seems more likely that the people who both are into this kind of thing and can't have those desires satisfied anywhere else are most likely people who are into m/m.

So, like, unless you want to make this about whether liking slash fiction in general is compatible with feminism, I don't think complaining about omegaverse stuff specifically makes much sense. And I don't think that's an argument that's going to have much traction with most people.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, I mean, I get the idea that for some people there is a certain appeal to the notion of pregnant dudes. And I'm not objected on "feminist" grounds or anything. It just seems kind of…pointless to me, I guess.

When you restructure the whole society (the way omega verse often is), then it kind of removes the novelty factor of "Oh NO -- dude is pregnant! This is completely unexpected!" or of subverting gender roles.

I'm more confused by the pointlessness (in my view) of it. I just don't get it at all.

People who like it can go ahead and enjoy it but it just puzzles me is all.

[(Anonymous)]

I would suspect that for people who enjoy it "Then who is pregnant? Dude is pregnant" either retains its novelty or - and I think this is much more likely - their enjoyment of it has nothing to do with novelty and everything to do with finding it skin-meltingly hot. Even if it's expected.

[(Anonymous)]

Kinks don't have any point other than that they make people hot. Maybe you only get off on ultra logical shit, but a lot of people have *gasp* FANTASIES, and they like to read and write about them, even and especially if those things can't actually happen in real life.

You must be such a fucking bore. What do you do when you watch movies with people? "That can't actually happen! That's so unrealistic, and let me tell you exactly why!" "But it's not supposed to be realistic, anon." "Then what's the point? I DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAANNNNND."