[ SECRET POST #361]

[shahni.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #361 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

- First post of the year!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Hope you all have a great one to follow! ♥
- Name that fandom, first comment!

Secrets Left to Post: 6 pages, 150 secrets from Secret Submission Post #052
Secrets Not Posted: [1] broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 3

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in the fandom. I don't think you realize that what you see in FS is reflected in the larger fandom. People just aren't open about it because they want to be "nice". Meaning, they want to be liked.

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[green-tea-river.livejournal.com]

Still... Even if they're keeping their opinion to themselves just to be liked... Isn't that, like... the definition of being polite?

PW is still one of the kindest, most mature, and most polite fandoms I've seen around. Even if there is a P/E shipper hate undercurrent, as long as it's stuffed under the rug, it's just people trying to be polite. That shouldn't be a problem, should it?

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[(Anonymous)]

It shouldn't be, but that undercurrent is uncomfortable to be around. Being truly polite is realizing that even if the overabundance of something is annoying, other people should be able to enjoy themselves and reacting accordingly. Not jabbing at them quietly through FS and subtle reminders about other pairings needing love.

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[green-tea-river.livejournal.com]

That's true-- you have a point...

Well, I think for the most part, most people that are against P/E, or think there's too much of it are mature enough to think that way... It's just the few intolerant ones that sorta ruin it. Still, for the most part, the PW fandom is pretty friendly <3

Re: 3

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I know about your secrets. They're a little hard to miss. You're also not too terribly subtle outside of FS to be perfectly frank.

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[cftf.livejournal.com]

well, to be fair, I'm sort of like the -king- of nonsubtle outside of FS >_>

SO YOU AREN'T ALONE

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[rejects.livejournal.com]

F!S is srs bizniss. :(

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[kinneas.livejournal.com]

I agree completely. I don't participate in PW fandom, but I lurk rather heavily and the anti-P/E sentiment is actually kind of ridiculous.

I'd rather people be frank about it instead of all this passive-aggressive bullshit.

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[kinneas.livejournal.com]

Well, my own opinions aside, that one's far more understandable. We're dealing with two pairings here, one between two friends and one between (debatably) siblings. The latter's resentment primarily comes from differing interpretations and acceptance of (possible) incest, and the former's is jealousy of a popular and pretty reasonable pairing.

That said, you're right 8D The fandom vitriol is just wtf.

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[musouka-manga.livejournal.com]

As least those aren't passive-agressive, though.

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[llamaramauk.livejournal.com]

I wanna see the passive aggressive bullshit! Show me the pokemons! I don't think whoever is doing it is very good at it as evidently I'm not seeing it at all (or maybe I am and it's so laughable it's passed for entertainment to me).

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[llamaramauk.livejournal.com]

Wow there's some paranoia and too much caring what other folks think going on here, isn't there, don'tcha think?

PW is my *only* active fandom (although I do read some stuff in a few others and stuff by a few selected writers who I know). I probably hang out or lurk at most of the communities and I chat to random people in email and in IM most every day about a variety of stuff including pairings, plot points and fuck knows what else.

I am a P/E writer and I laugh quite often with tellezara about the fact that for both of us it's the first time an dthe first fandom that we've ever had an OTP for. Heck, I didn't even know what an "OTP" *was* until August last year.

Have I ever had anyone harass me, bitch at me, give me shit or be "passive aggressive" at me over it? I don't think so. If I have, they were DOING IT WRONG because I didn't notice. Do some people dislike P/E - yeah, sure, it's their right to do so. I dislike a few pairings myself, who doesn't? But I wouldn't take my ball home over it unless someone is being an arse about how the express themselves.

Truly, this *is* a very friendly fandom, when I compare notes with friends in many, many other fandoms. So little wank by most standards, except for yeah, here, and one or two other places.

Are there dramas behind the scenes? Fuck yes, but actually, I haven't encountered any that were to do with ships. Go figure. And the most behind the scenes wank I have heard of has *been* from P/E shippers and been pretty fucking mild, frankly. Hahahah.

I think there's a danger here of creating drama where there is none and that's a shame. Maybe I just have a thick skin, or maybe it's because I'm an aging bastard with a streak of snark a mile wide that says I've seen it all before and just don't take random shit personally. I dunno. But I stand by my opinion that it's a friendly fandom and that if there are "deadly undercurrents" then I think they may be confined to a very small piece of water that isn't lapping on my beaches.

There's also the fact of course that I don't remember the last time I wasted any concern on people being bitchy behind closed doors anywhere. Mostly I think it's a) human nature and b) funny. Oscar Wilde had it right.