ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-01-02 01:12 am

[ SECRET POST #361]


⌈ Secret Post #361 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

- First post of the year!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Hope you all have a great one to follow! ♥
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Secrets Left to Post: 6 pages, 150 secrets from Secret Submission Post #052
Secrets Not Posted: [1] broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
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Re: 25

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still voting on the "no more bitching pls" thing.

Re: 25

[identity profile] starchildorion.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's kinda pointless to bitch about a game that's been out for a few years, but wishful thinking shouldn't be all together thrown out; if the OP feels the way they do, then that's okay. It's not like they don't have a good point.

Re: 25

[identity profile] starchildorion.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I think that you should pause a moment and not consider the historical inaccuracies (which run rampant in... pretty much every animated Disney movie) and instead consider the Disney "canon" facts - Pocohontas is more of a 'princess' than Alice is.

Re: 25

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Um, the historical inaccuracies SHOULD be thought of here. I don't think it's a good idea to use a historical figure as a game character when that character is completely bastardized. :/

Re: 25

[identity profile] starchildorion.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Not in context of what makes a 'canon' Disney princess, which is the point. I do think that her character as you put it, is completely bastardized. That is an important topic, but to me is irrelevant to the main argument: DISNEY princesses. Which is separate from the 'real' people or even canon - Disney bastardized a ton of characters from a ton of literary and historical sources. It's a fact of life with Disney (consider Mulan).

I think that you are RIGHT that Pocohontas is bastardized. However, I think that saying she shouldn't have been in the game because she's bastardized from her historical counterpart is kinda moot because then we should be arguing that Cinderella's stepsisters should've sliced off their toes and heels in the original children's movie.

Re: 25

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is, she shouldnt be brought in as a KH character because it is REINFORCING the inaccuracies. Thats the last thing we need -_-

ugh poor mulan ;_;

Re: 25

[identity profile] starchildorion.livejournal.com 2008-01-02 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I can see your point, but I don't think it's that big of a deal (nor the issue with why she wasn't in it, due to the fact that Mulan was in KHII). I think that just opens up a whole new level of personal responsibility when it comes to stuff like that... when I went to see Pocohontas when I was like 7-8 or however old I was my parents made sure to tell me that she was a real individual and we looked up basic information on her, or even when I watched the old Snow White or Sleeping Beauty movies my parents made sure to remind me that there were original versions and the movies I was watching were 'Disney' versions. BUT LIKE I SAID. OPENING UP A CAN OF WORMS THERE.

tl;dr version: It's important that we recognize that Pocohontas was bastardized by Disney, however arguing that a Disney bastardization shouldn't be in a Disney game (full of other bastardizations) is splitting hairs. :'