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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-25 04:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2944 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2944 ⌋

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Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
We honestly REALLY try to avoid those situations, because they pretty much ALWAYS go hellbent. If one of us actively dislikes or fears someone we associate with, it's best that NONE of us be close. Otherwise, it could end up getting squicky fast. (I mean, think of it from the singlet's perspective. They'd be talking to someone and since we can switch involuntarily, they might randomly be suddenly talking to someone who DISLIKES them. Yech.)

Privacy is tricky. How much we have depends which system members are involved, and how hard everyone is trying NOT to spy on people. Hiding Christmas presents from each other is practically impossible. Generally, when it comes to, say, conversations with people, all of us will hear it. (Some people seemed unaware of this, and would sometimes bash one system member to another. Don't do that.)

No worries. The thread ain't going anywhere, so you can take your time!

--Rogan

Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you very much.

I have a question that's extremely personal and sensitive no matter who I'd be asking, so trying to ask it about a situation I struggle to fully understand is causing my some difficulty.

How about I give you the general layout of the thought I'm trying to form and you tell me to go and mind my own fucking business if I'm crossing a line you're not comfortable with?
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Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
*thumbs up* Sounds good, anon!

--Rogan

Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, it's about death. Particularly pertaining to it's permanence when it's outside of the corporal.

I'm also curious about the other touchy stuff Religion and Politics.

Again, touchy stuff to ask anyone without offending, so please feel free to tell me to piss off.
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Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Death should be fine, and politics too. Religion will be difficult only because we only have one religious system member. Regardless, those should be okay.

--Rogan

Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, thank you.

For me, the idea of death is tied inextricably to the cessation of the body's function. The heart stops, the brain dies, the XYZ organ breaks down and the self has nothing to support it. I can't imagine the death of the self outside of the death of the body, so this is why I'm having trouble getting my head around it. I know you've suffered a loss, but the body which supported her is still functioning, so my question is this: How can you know that she has died (as in can never return) is it feasible she is simply dormant? I really do apologise for my lack of sensitivity on this, I know it's a horrible subject, but, like I say, I just can't get my head around it.

Religion: What do you all believe will happen to you when you die? I assume when you say that only the one of you are religious you mean only one of you follows a religious doctrine? Or do you mean only one of you have any spiritual leanings at all? I'm basically curious how you all feel about the concept of a soul and if you feel you share a soul as well as a body? what does the religious system member think will happen to the rest of you? What does your religious person believe has happened to the girl you all lost?

Politics: How do you all vote? I can't imagine that you each get 1 vote under the current law, so does a consensus need to be reached as to how you spend the single vote between you all? Or am I way off on how the law works for this, and each person get's their own vote?

Finally (this might be the least offensive question... or actually could be the worst Hope I'm ending on something light.) How did you get your names? I was named because my parent's loved Michael Jackson and presumably, the of the first of you to be born has an equally humiliating origin, but as for Rogan and Sneak where did those names come from. Did you each name yourselves, or how did that happen?
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Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, in pieces.

First, names. We tend to just... come with them. There's no active deliberation or choice involved; it seems part of our creation. We can trace some of the subconscious themes that LED to our name (for instance, Miranda has some personality and appearance resemblance to a fictional character from a comic we were reading at the time, whose antagonist was named Miranda) but that's it.

Next, politics. Thankfully, we all share close enough political leanings that we have no trouble picking who to vote. Thank god; that would SUCK.

Now, religion. I (Rogan) have no idea what happens after we die, but find it immensely comforting to know that one day, I will find out; Miranda and Sneak seem to share roughly the same idea. Gigi thinks nothing happens, only annihilation. I have no idea what Falcon believes, and he doesn't seem to be interested in telling me. Mac and M.D. have both died before, but they had drastically different experiences, neither of them pleasant, and they have no idea what'll happen when this vessel dies, if it'll be the same or something different.

Mac's my husband, and he's Christian. Everyone else here is either agnostic (Miranda and Sneak) or a hard-nosed atheist (me, Gigi, and M.D.); Falcon was apparently Catholic at one point, but I have no idea if he still practices or not. I don't think we share souls; at best, me, Mir, Sneak, Gigs, and M.D. budded off a soul and are still a bit bound to each other, like plants that grow from cuttings. (Falcon and Mac are their own thing.) As for what Mac thinks, I'll just have him say.

Mac: I don't know what'll happen when they die; that's not for me to know. I just am sure that whatever happens and wherever they go, it'll be together. I believe that the girl who died is dead, and that her soul is waiting for the rest of them, for when THEY die. Time doesn't have to work for the dead the way it does for the living; I'm sure they'll all be reunited when the time comes.

Rogan: Okay, back to me. And finally, death, because this one is the longest and most difficult. Here, there is body death, and then there's a... a soul death, for lack of a better term, which is what we experience here. (Obviously, when the body dies, we presumably all go with it.) Even though the vessel is still alive, when one of us dies here, there's generally no returning from it. (M.D. was a very special case, and even her, it took ten years and a LOT of work and pain.) A soul death occurs when the essence of someone here has been reassembled into other people. Either they've been hacked apart into new members, or they've been reassimilated into another member. When this happens, you generally can't maintain your sense of individuality or self; you are literally no longer you. In our original girl's case, she had four years of shouldering trauma alone, then four years of more trauma which resulted in four system members being hacked off of her. There just wasn't enough left of her to be a person anymore. Had she not died and left us behind, I honestly believe she would've either committed suicide, or retreated so deeply into herself that the body would've been left practically vacant.

As for M.D., she was killed because she knew something that would've completely destroyed the system, had it become known at the time. So our brain axed her as a security measure and made me and Sneak to carry on. Ten years later, I got a whiff of what she knew, and started digging, and she was able to return to share the soul-breaking news and information she learned, which was a gamechanger. Once the information was brought to light, she no longer needed to be dead. But we've had a lot of deaths in this system, and she is the only one to revive.

Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for taking the time to go through that. I thought I would have follow up questions, but that's pretty much answered them all.

You were very kind to put up with all those questions, thanks, (Hope I didn't make too much of a knob of myself with my ignorance).
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Re: Everything you wanted to know about DID/multi, but were afraid to ask.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, you're good. Death is a really complex subject here, and it felt good to lay it out; I feel like I came to more easily understand it here. It also helps that I'm making comics specifically about death in the system for a big project I've been hauling on the past six months plus.

--Rogan