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⌈ Secret Post #2945 ⌋

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[Not a Harem Heaven, It's a Yandere Hell]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[In the Flesh]

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[Hudson Leick as Callisto in Xena, Warrior Princess]

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[Plebcomics]

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[Great British Bake Off]

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[Captain America: The First Avenger]

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[Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE!]

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[Queen]

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For me, I was hoping his motivation for leaving Mirkwood was to find/rescue his son. That Legolas was somehow the impetus to get him out of Mirkwood and then that somehow got him to go further and march on the mountain.

It doesn't make sense that Thranduil would risk the lives of all his Elves for something as small as a necklace but then later, he's so against spilling any Elf blood at all. Even in DoS, he seems content to let the world burn so long as his people are safe, but he's just going to throw that away now?

I also agree that the setup was terrible. In the films, they never say anything about the gems being his wife's -- that's all stuff I've heard from the BTS (and will probably be added in for the EE). So, he seems like a greedy douche.

But, if Legolas doesn't remember his mother and he's not a young Elf, then why does Thror have the necklace? Would the Dwarves have really kept it that whole time? And it looked like they were contracted to make the necklace, which means that Thranduil's wife never wore it, so why does he connect it so strongly to her?

Don't get me wrong, it didn't bug me that much the first few times I saw the film but now that I've had time to think about it, I find the entire thing to be frustrating.

To be fair, it's not like they made things up whole-cloth for the movies; Thranduil does come for gems in The Hobbit book, and I'm pretty sure his backstory is straight out of the Silmarilion. (I think in the Silmarilion it wasn't him who commissioned the necklace, but it was one of his people, and the dwarves refused to hand it over and massacred a bunch of elves. So that was the beginning of the worst of the Dwarf/Elf tension) I got the impression it wasn't so much JUST 'yay shinies!' but more a matter of principle..."I won't be kept from what's mine any longer by no damned dirty dwarves".

And Legolas is an awkward character for the filmmakers to have to handle because he wasn't in the book at all, Tolkien later made him up for LotR, but if they made The Hobbit and included Mirkwood but not Legolas, who's been living there for at least a thousand years, the audience would be understandably "WTF?"

But see they did make it up. Thranduil is not in the Silm at all. It is only Thingol. Now, Tolkien clearly had Thingol in mind when he made Thranduil -- he drew a lot from him -- but they are not the same thing at all. The thing that bugged me the most was that they bent over backwards to include Thingol's storyline into the movies but because they don't actually have the rights to Silm, they had to file off the serial numbers, so you end up with this terrible compilation. There was absolutely no reason for it. And the Nauglamir was recovered and the Dwarves responsible for it were all slain. There's no reason for Thranduil to be pissed because of something that happened to Thingol.

And, there is some debate about why Thranduil does what he does in the book. He doesn't ask for anything for himself once he sees Thorin is alive and it's not mentioned that the gems are why he marches his army (I have my own theories about that). Not to say that it couldn't be the gems but there's nothing hard and solid to say it was that and no other reason.

I have no problem with them including Legolas. I agree that he really should've been present in Mirkwood. He's such an insular character and appears to be seeing so much for the first time in LOTR that it makes sense he didn't leave home that much.

But, again, there is nothing there to suggest a conflict with his dad. There are infinite possibilities for how to include his character and what they chose was in the absolute bottom tier.

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