[ SECRET POST #2946 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2946 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

... I would also think it was weird if "he" was the default pronoun (and more annoying), by the way.

[esteefee]

I would find it equally not annoying, but squickifying. I found it upsetting reading the book because it is misgendering the characters, and you *know* it's misgendering the characters because the author actually makes a point of it (makes certain you know that a character who is "male" in one language is referred to as "she" throughout the rest of the book, and you don't know who else is being misgendered.)

I don't know what purpose the author thought she was serving, but it wasn't one I appreciated.

What ever is wrong with "they"?

[ariakas]

Yes, it's mentioned that the character you're talking about is "male", but not a "man". The narrator knows said character is biologically male, and as such characters who are not part of her culture and do not speak her language refer to that character as "he" - that doesn't mean that character identifies as "he". She is quite happily referred to as "she" and never corrected by the one character that is of her language and culture. How is that "misgendering" anyone?

You'd think that of all people OP would know "male" =/= "man".

[esteefee]

I'm not OP. Just so you know.

The writer makes a point of identifying the character as male so that she can 2 pages later, in the character's language which is the "genderless" language that she couldn't find a neutral pronoun for, tried to use "they" for and ended up using "she" for instead, identify as "she." So yes, he is misgendered. He is totally misgendered. You and I and everyone knows he is misgendered. The author made a clumsy *point* of misgendering him, just to further her story's agenda.

And that's why ick.

[ariakas]

What.

How do we "know" Seivarden is misgendered? She's perfectly fine with the pronoun "she", which is what she uses in her own language. Outsiders who don't know any better label her "he" because she is biologically male. They're misgendering her.

Claiming that, because someone is biologically male, they must be "he" - and that "you and I and everyone knows" it - is honestly what's "ick", here.