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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-27 07:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2946 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2946 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
"like making Bucky’s prosthetic arm just a tattoo in an au is frankly disrespectful lmao"
"prosthetic arms aren’t an aesthetic, they’re parts of disabled people’s bodies, a tattoo of them is not the same and is just a way to keep what you think is cool whilst making sure the character isn’t disabled"

Why do ppl think this? Do they not understand what an AU is? Or that the tattoo is a nod to canon? Or that Bucky and his super cybernetic arm (that in no way disables him) isn't really that great of an idol (like say the guy from HTTYD or CHarles Xavier)?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think if he was born missing an arm or lost it at a very young age before the canon began then it would be kind of weird not to include a prosthetic in fic but...he lost it after falling from a train during WWII. I don't think people should have to shove in a random accident to give him a missing arm in AUs. It's also just not THAT important to his character and the arm in canon is so advanced and acts so similarly to a real arm (and is superior in some aspects) that he's not nearly as limited with it as someone in real life would be with the average prosthetic. It's not really all that much of a disability (or not as much of one as it would be in a realistic setting)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I'd definitely be more into an AU where he has a realistic prosthetic arm than I would be into the tattoo one, but that's just a personal preference. Bucky is... yeah, not really the first character who comes to mind when I think of disabled superheroes, and his missing arm isn't especially thoughtfully handled in the first place, at least in the cinematic universe.
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Disabled superheroes!

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-28 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I admittedly first thought of Hawkeye, which I know has had some pretty cool comics recently showing his deafness and sign language. (Which as someone who's a bit hard of hearing, I really appreciate.)

I would also argue that Deadpool is bonkers enough for me to consider him disabled. It depends on the writer and the arc. Ditto Guy Gardner sometimes, during his brain damaged era. (Though I'll be the first to say these are really up to debate.)

Ooh, and Mindfuck, from Empowered! She's blind and mute and has to rely on her telepathy to get around.
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Re: Disabled superheroes!

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-01-28 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, Mindfuck sounds awesome! I need to check that out.
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Re: Disabled superheroes!

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-28 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
She doesn't appear until vol. 4, and I warn you right off, Empowered is DEFINITELY not for everybody. It has a LOT of cheesecake to it, very knowingly, and it's not until about vol. 4 that it hits its stride, in my opinion. Also, the anime-ish style really throws some people.

My advice would be, try and find the first volume in a library, see if you're okay with it.

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree that an au where its a prosthetic would be more interesting to me, but part of that is cause its a much different take on canon. The super cool bionic arm isn't what I think of as great representation, and it always confuses me when people hold Bucky up as such (which I do see from time to time).

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
lol Bucky only lost an arm so they could give him a badass bionic one that's pretty much superior to an actual one. this person is kind of reaching if they consider him good representation of a disabled person

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still rolling my eyes at Bucky even having a super special awesome Fullmetal Alchemist arm.

like

who came up with that
why did they only stick one on Bucky
why didn't they equip all of their Hydra soldiers with them (or at least ones who lost limbs, God knows they'd have a lot of those in WAR TIMES)

I know it's nitpicky as fuck and I should just believe it on the logic of 'COMICS LOL' but it's really distracting.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-01-28 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
No, not even just the ones who lost arms. If I was Hydra I would be chopping peoples limbs off and adding super bionics arms. And maybe you can say,"Well it only worked On Bucky because he has knockoff serum." Why wouldn't Hydra chop off his otherarm so he can have TWO super arms?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I wanted to make that note too, of the 'not one, but TWO super arms!' thing. Also, you're right with Hydra not sitting around to test this on just Bucky or other amputees. They'd be hacking limbs off left and right trying to test the hell out of that kind of tech.

Honestly, my guess would be that they tried.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
And failed. A lot. I believe they did some stuff to him (in the factory that Steve rescued him from) before he fell from the train. So maybe their experimentation with SuperSoldier Serum-Lite, or whatever, only really took with Bucky and made his prosthetic arm viable (and also the flash-freezing, because that seems like it might useful for other Hydra 'assets' as well).

Re: Honestly, my guess would be that they tried.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Is it even confirmed in MCU that Bucky is hopped up on Serum-Lite? Because I really missed that and it's another nitpick of mine.

Re: Honestly, my guess would be that they tried.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Steve says at one point in TWS that Bucky had been experimented on before his apparent death, and that whatever they did to him (presumably the Serum-Lite) helped him to survive the fall. (And presumably it also helped him survive being repeatedly frozen and defrosted.)

Re: Honestly, my guess would be that they tried.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it is. But we do know Hydra wanted the serum and was heavily into experimentation, especially Zola, so I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption. That said, I would say he is enhanced in some way beyond the arm, but whether that's serum-based, alien tech-based (like that scepter thing was in the credits scene with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch or the Tesseract), or something like whatever the hell Whitehall got from Skye's mother (Agents of SHIELD), I don't know.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they only had enough materials to make one arm for one guy?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

So they slapped the one arm with the sparse materials they had on an enemy they found bleeding out in the snow? Way too much risk involved when there would probably be a line of Hydra agents willing to lop off an arm to get a futuristic upgrade.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-01-29 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Haters gonna hate.

I DO prefer him with the prosthetic, and I guess some people are going to feel like it's untrue to the character - but you know, everyone has a different take on the character, that's why it's fanfic.