[ SECRET POST #2946 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2946 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So, I just didn't find that at all believable. Nor the fact Seivarden is male according to Strigan's language yet she is gendered as female throughout the book because she is Radchaai. The writer is just being cute.

Seivarden is gendered in that way because that is how she is gendered in her culture and it is how she genders herself. It is YOU who are misgendering the character, based on your personal ideas of what gender is and which pronouns you think people with certain physical characteristics should use. And what's worse is that you're actually suggesting that someone should adopt and be referred to by a pronoun from a completely different culture and language simply because that culture and language happens to fall more in line with what you're used to.

It wasn't about making a feminist statement. It was about the entire concept of gender. It was about gender not necessarily aligning with a person's physical body. It was about gender cues being different depending on which society you find yourself in. It was about gender itself being different depending on which society you find yourself in. And, golly, is that message needed, because it's so painfully obvious we've fallen right back into essentialist mode and dressed it up in progressive clothes.

[esteefee]

Read my reply above. And if you really think Leckie was right in using solely a feminine pronoun to refer to a genderless society, then I wish you good luck with it. I'd be happy with a genderless pronoun, but Leckie wasn't willing to do the work. It was too hard.

[(Anonymous)]

That reply doesn't address a single thing that I've said.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything I read here about this book sounds so mind numbingly tedious.

[ariakas]

It's actually really excellent, but the discussions about it get bogged down by people who either didn't read it or barely read it (like the OP) and just want to harp on that single aspect of the premise. It's a space opera about a ship's AI out for revenge, ultimately, with decent suspense, exciting action, and a very likable protagonist.

[(Anonymous)]

That does sound interesting. Thanks for the more neutral summary!

[(Anonymous)]

That's because all anyone seems to talk about here is this one controversial aspect of it. In the book, the whole gender thing isn't harped upon or treated like a big deal. It's just a single aspect of the world-building. Someone mentioned 'The Left Hand of Darkness,' and it's a spot-on comparison: that book contains an effectively genderless world, but that's just treated as being part of the world.

Anyway, the actual story itself is a lot more interesting and contains a lot more action than people here would have you believe.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks as well. I sometimes tend to get turned away from reading a book when all I read about it is tedious discussion about some ~problematic~ aspects, so I appreciate the more neutral summaries.