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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-27 07:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2946 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2946 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, Bioware themselves often fail to coherently articulate the politics and culture of Thedas. They try to draw parallels between real world oppression and in-game oppression, but in really vague and inconsistent ways that can be frustrating when you're a fan trying to make sense of it all.
And they repeatedly drop the ball on the whole matriarchal Andrastian thing by then structuring the rest of the Fereldan/The Free Marches/Orlais as if a world whose dominant religion is matriarchal would be nearly as misogynistic as the real world, which... no.

I mean, there are things fandom does that do explicitly contradict canon (like when they say that Andrastians would be homophobic) and it annoys me when they do that, but in many cases the canon is sloppy and contradictory, so I fully expect people to come out of it with sloppy and contradictory opinions.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
+1 IA
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2015-01-28 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
While I agree the lore isn't perfect, I think it's pretty internally consistent if you're diligent about reading the (fucking endless but fascinating) codexes. Any parallels between the real world and Thedas have to make room for the influence the unique development of being an alien world has had on society, and for what it's worth, I really respect the setting for not being just another "exactly like the Middle Ages but with dragons stapled on". As for misogyny, eh, I think it makes a good attempt at handling a matriarchal religion spreading through largely patriarchal societies. None of Thedas's human governments are theocracies, so Andrastianism doesn't make the laws the way patriarchal religions once did/do in the real world.

It's true the lore hasn't done nearly enough to emphasize that, though, giving the impression that Thedas' laws and societies are equally as matriarchal as the dominant religion, when they most emphatically are not.
Edited 2015-01-28 07:44 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-28 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
The canon is contradictory at times but when it comes to homophobia, they even had an entire codex entry you could find in DA:I about sexuality in Thedas (or Ferelden? I don't completely remember). It wasn't perfectly done but at least they tried.