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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-28 10:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2947 ]


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[identity profile] dafnelemmon.livejournal.com 2015-01-29 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
so Kirk and Spock were also reduced to ( bad characters) because of this?

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FUCK. THIS. SHIT

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
For the second? Yes. Spock didn't even cry when his planet exploded, he's not going to cry over the death of one person he doesn't even seem to like.

The reboot is just shitty characterization all over, really. I don't think Uhura's is worse than anyone else's, but that's not saying much.

[identity profile] dafnelemmon.livejournal.com 2015-01-29 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe Spock's reaction doesn't make sense to you, but that isn't even the case in the Uhura gifs where it seems that the person I'm replying has a problem with her having feelings even though it makes sense in the context of the scenes.
Neither that gif where she's sad nor the one where she's kissing Spock are examples of 'shitty characterization' for me.
In the first, Uhura was crying because someone she happens to consider a friend just died and the person she's in love with went after the person who is responsible for her friend's death and he could die too.
The second is just a gif of two characters kissing. Now if someone has a problem with kissing in general and thinks that's 'shitty' and disgusting and offensive for some cultural reason it's one thing, but for many people in real life that's hardly the kind of image that should inspire disgust or make people think that a character is shitty. In context, these characters are in a relationship and people who are in relationship will kiss sometimes especially when your partner is about to go in a mission from which he might not come back to. If someone is trying to say that Uhura is just eye candy and a sexual object, I have to question if they actually watched that movie.
In either scene, her reactions make totally sense. If someone thinks that there is something wrong about Uhura having feelings well, there must be something wrong with that person.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, all you asked was whether people thought the Spock scene was OOC. I said yes. People having problems with Uhura's characterization but being fine with everyone else's is stupid, I agree, (especially since the problems with Kirk's and Spock's characterization are much greater IMO) but people having problems with everyone's characterization including Uhura's is understandable.
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[personal profile] othellia 2015-01-29 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of? I'm not a huge fan of the reboot movies in general. I felt like they simplified a lot of characterization into SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS + MAIN CHARACTERS CRY ABOUT IT + MAIN CHARACTERS YELL WITH ANGER.

Also, my objections with Uhura crying/emoting in the movies is that she always seemed to do it as a satellite to someone else's more major pain. Even her relationship with Spock makes her a satellite of his story line and his character in general. And I know part of adaptation a series into a movie is the reduced screen time, and so different characters get shafted and other stuff has to be combined and Kirk and Spock are the main characters so it kind of makes sense that the rest of the crew has to revolve around them now, but it's still annoying.

Like search for "Best of Uhura" youtube and the first page is mostly all Uhura/Spock moments.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
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but like you said, Uhura is just a secondary character and the reboot movies aren't about her.
I mean good luck trying to find what McCoy did beside being Jim Kirk's best friend (tbh, Uhura did more than McCoy or the other secondary male characters saved maybe for Scotty in the last movie).
This doesn't mean that Uhura and McCoy are bad characters just because the way they get to show their emotions is in relation to important their relationships with the main characters that are important to them.