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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-29 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2948 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Especially when many, many women are from countries where they have to depend on men to do everything. Even walk them down the road. To have this new independence thrust on them? It would be chaos or at the very least, very hard for them to adjust.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
nah. jarring at first maybe, but you underestimate the women of these countries.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I really can't tell if you're trolling or just catastrophically ignorant, but:

- no, the vast majority of women do not live under oppression that severe, and
- the only place I can think of where women aren't supposed to be unaccompanied in public is Saudi Arabia, and they get plenty of shit done not-in-public, especially if they aren't from the small upper class
- the comic didn't even take place in those countries??? it was primarily set in america and japan so. like. the degree of apocalypticism in the canon is unrelated to laws/cultures that extreme

ayrt's comment is p spot-on tho, just 80% of the truckers and 90%+ of the cargo airplane pilots dying would fuck a tonne of shit up in a sprawling postindustrial society like america

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

And it's not just truckers! Women make up a tiny portion of the bulk of industrial and heavy labor fields. You'd lose half your population (which would be bad enough on it's own, suddenly that's half the shit needed to keep a society running not getting done), but you might lose anywhere from 60-99% of your skilled/experienced laborers, depending on the field.

Schools, retail, nursing? Those fields would probably be okay. But commercial fishing? Logging? Machine fabrication? Oil rig/field work? Mining? Not so much.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
actually many "third world" countries rely on women in those fields.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
This.

I'm in a third word country and I have seen many women doing heavy work, especially in construction. And fishing is pretty commonly done by women, specially in areas where there's mining (which is mostly [but not exclusively] done by men).

Even if few women work on those fields in certain countries, I'm pretty sure many would learn and work on it if it was necessary.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
women may not have much presence in jobs like trucking or piloting, but trucking is a very easy job to learn (i learned and i'm not a man). also, women have a fairly larger presence in the air force than most people assume, and many of us (yes, again, me) know how to fly. planes aren't universal for sure, but the same can be said with cars. you may not be used to a large, clunky, wide car, but you still know how to drive, and you get used to it eventually. it really pains me to see how many people have so little faith in women and their ability to adapt. we've been having to adapt for centuries.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Does anyone remember women taking over for the male workforce during WWII? No?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
IDT there's anybody here who's in their 70s who could remember that time from their experience, though I could be wrong.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But studying history is still a thing, right?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT-- women who didn't already know how to fly a plane/drive a big rig could learn how pretty fast, but in the comic almost everything with a Y chromosome* keels over dead at once. So planes that were in the air piloted by men, and trucks being driven by men, just crashed. I'd think a big part of the problem would be finding salvageable planes and rigs for everyone who had to learn.

*I dunno if Vaughan did much research because there's lots of animals that don't have XY sex chromosomes.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
It was only mammals that keeled over, and all mammals except monotremes have XY sex chromosomes. (Yay we get to keep the platypus and echindna!)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure most companies don't use all their planes at the same time, plus with a reduction in the population the demand would fall.

That means less pilots (and planes, but in the long run it would be possible to produce new ones) would be needed and even if the surviving ones weren't enough, they won't need to train a big number of new ones so the existing facilities (that were in a decent shape) could be enough.