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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-29 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2948 ]


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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-01-30 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I don't claim to know. I just think it's worth thinking about instead of immediately denying it.

I think it's highly individual though, so the same interests wouldn't say the same thing about different people because it's extremely complicated with personal history and larger culture and all kinds of things interacting and influencing the preference.

But I'm not really trying to convince anyone of anything. If other people disagree, which they do, that's fine. I just can't say I understand their point of view. I feel like the whole reason people get so invested in fiction is because of its connection to real life, even when it's escapism, so to deny that it's connected to real life is to deny its power and importance.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-01-30 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I actually tend to agree there's a connection to real life. I just have problems with people who draw very simplified conclusions or play armchair psychologist (which it seems you really aren't!).
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-01-30 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I have huge issues with simplistic armchair psychology. I have some friends who are probably tired of hearing about it. I'm definitely not advocating that sort of thing.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh get off your high horse with your pseudo-intellectual bullcarp.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with drawing connections between people's sexual fantasies and their real life tastes is that there are a hundred reasons why a person could have that particular fantasy, so any conclusions drawn are essentially meaningless.

One of the reasons I have my own particular fantasies is as a way to replay events from my own life, but from different points of view. So my fics are connected to real life, but not the way it might first seem. For instance, I'll write rape fantasy, but from the point of view of the rapist, and I'll make the story deliberately arousing. The last part isn't by accident. Eroticising the story turns it into entertainment, and I'm the one in control of it.

So on the surface, it may seem like because I'm writing about a rapist and making the rape sexy, I must be endorsing it. It's the opposite. Overwhelmingly my readers are female and I assume a lot of them have been assaulted themselves. I sometimes get comments about them feeling guilty that they were aroused by my stories. I tell them it's okay. I think it's a healthy reaction, at least at first. These kinds of stories are good way of reflecting at a safe distance, although I hope nobody's reading diet is 100% rapefic.

I assume there are people who write rape fic who actually want to rape in real life, purely because statistically some people are real life rapists and some people write rape fic, and sometimes these two must coincide. I somehow doubt that there's a lot of them. Writing is a self-reflective business.

However, the reaction that rapefic often gets is that it's morally wrong, and that people who read it are sick and creepy. Rape itself is, yes. Not the fics, per se. That's why I'm dubious when people insist there's a connection between fantasies and real life. They mostly mean in far too literal a fashion.