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[ SECRET POST #2950 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2950 ⌋

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I don't understand what that means.

Bullshit politeness so that you can be a bully without getting called on it.

In this case, asking a "reasonable" question with no intention of taking the answer to heart.

"I don't understand why women have a problem with XXX"
"*Is given answer*"
"No you're wrong"

I disagree with the answer, I'm not refusing to accept it. If you can convince me I'll accept it.

And I'm being polite because it's a conversation that I'm actually interested in having and I'd rather not see it get derailed into ideological SJW / anti-SJW fuckery. Even though the chances of that happening approach 1 in a million.

If you think that things would be better served by me pretending I think things that I don't think, or calling someone a fuckhead, I guess all I can say is that I don't see your logic there. But I guess that's sea-lioning too.

"But I guess that's sea-lioning too"

You are correct. That whole comment was so sea-lion, I can actually smell the fish.

da

I'm laughing at you so much right now.

A+, SJWs never disappoint! Polite disagreement is now offensive! No one will beleive you're genuinely disagreeing, unless you throw a couple of fucks and call ayrt a shitlord!

*new SJW tactic bingo card buzzword detected*

It means to engage in mature debate.

There was a good Wondermark strip about how a faux-reasonable tone can be used to be really obnoxious, and some kids have adopted it because it lets them criticize reasonableness as abusive.

But you explained it so beautifully I'll post it as a response to you

The strip in question (and not what you were doing at all politely disagreeing anon)

DA

So OP posted their own thread, offended anon came into OP's thread, then offended anon accused OP of sea-lioning when offended anon is the one who is posting in OP's thread?

Is it just me or is the whole thing the opposite way around? Why post in someone else's thread and keep replying then accuse them of following you? Wtf?

Sea-lioning is less about the following, and more about the obnoxious veil of civility the uncivilised use to add weight to their arguments.

I apologize if you find my posts obnoxious! Is there anything I could do to make them less so?

Why would you do that? Offending this anon is fun!

So being "too civil" is bad, but being all sorts of hurtful and insulting is okay, because otherwise Tone Argument? Then people complain that every discourse is skewing even harder into "everyone being assholes"... but it seems like more and more, that's becoming the only acceptable way to debate.

DA

I think that the end result they're hoping for is that there is no debate at all, and that we simply accept the rightful opinions handed down from our SJW overlords. Because they KNOW what's best.

I kind of agree with the sea lion in this comic. It was only trying to engage in a polite discussion with a bunch of assholes who made a hurtful, sweeping statement about its race and then proceeded to ignore it as it attempted to defend itself (as all racists tend to do, when called out on their racism). It even decided to come back at a later time, when it noticed they're busy.

The major thing the sea lion did wrong was follow them into the house and intrude in their private spaces, which is stalking and/or harassment. Talking to them at a restaurant, in public, after being told to go away once, doesn't count - if people actually went away after being told to go away once, my internet experience would be so much better, lol.

That's why I interpreted that comic as about stalking and/or harassing, and not the tone of voice which was totally reasonable to me. Of course stalking and/or harassing is wrong, regardless of the tone you take. But the tone is irrelevant when offended anon is the one following OP and posting in their thread and it can't be called stalking and/or harassing in any way

The major thing the human did wrong was not apologise for her statement. She said something which offended someone.

tbh I think it's just a joke about people acting like herbs on the Internet

What is an herb?

It's a plant lacking a woody stem.

Obviously, anon is acting like...grass.

(Or maybe they're being a pansy?)

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