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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-31 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2950 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2950 ⌋

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Re: Fuck you Fandom secrets.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-01 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
But there is a line of criticism and thought that - at least unless I've catastrophically misunderstood it, in which case, tell me so - that men can't know what women's bodies or women's experiences are like (in terms of interior experience - not, like, biological science).

I have heard it, but I think you're misconstruing it. The version I have heard is that basically dudes need to shut up pretending they understand things they are highly unlikely to ever personally experience--pregnancy and abortion, for instance. It's not that men are so fucking dumb they can't understand women; it's that those who are so arrogant they think they know better than women need to shut up and actually LISTEN.

Manspreading is not comparable, because (A) women can take up space on the train and be pains in the ass too, if they want, and (B) men can experience being squished by assholes ventilating their junk, like me. You're comparing apples and oranges, and your base reasoning is misunderstood anyway.

And even if we took the base reasoning as true (and there are enough jerks of every flavor that I'm sure SOMEONE has argued it), it's bunk. I'm trans, and I KNOW that my gender changed over time. I was never one of those trans folks who believed their gender was fixed from the very start. And I CERTAINLY don't think I could only understand women's experiences till I became a man, at which point I instantly only understood men's experiences. A lot of cis dudes are still Greek to me. I feel more in common with my trans women friends than my cis men friends.

--Rogan