[ SECRET POST #2951 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2951 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The To-Do List, Brandy/Willy]


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[Avatar: Legend of Korra]


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[The Amazing World of Gumball]


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[Agents of Shield]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Galavant]


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[Soukyuu no Fafner Exodus]


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[Jamie Dornan from "The Fall"]


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(Neil Gaiman)













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Comments

[sarillia]

How is policing what people say outloud in a public space thought-policing? It's not about the thought but the action. I understand where you're coming from but people are way to quick to use that phrase.

[(Anonymous)]

Because "freedom of speech" also means "freedom to say things others might find offensive."

I mean, I get offended when people using "fucking" as Jesus's middle name, but you don't see me all over here policing that, even though it's dead common.

[sarillia]

That is indeed what freedom of speech means and it is an admirable goal. But thoughts and speech are different things. I was objecting to your use of the term "thought-policing", so I'm confused by how this is a reply to my comment.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess I don't make the same distinction between thought and speech that you do. How free is my thought if I'm not allowed to voice it?

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between saying stuff to people on an individual level and organizing large public demonstrations by people who are all reinforcing their opinions in public and are extremely visible.

[(Anonymous)]

Then organize a counter-demonstration. It shouldn't be hard, since Neo-Nazis are vile and that's something that most people agree on.

[sarillia]

Well the Thought Police were more invasive than any government that has actually existed in real life and I just don't feel like it helps anything to exaggerate.

Speech is an action in my mind because it acts on other people. It has effects on them that privately thinking the same things doesn't. The thought still feels plenty free to me even if I'm afraid to voice it because I can still think it all I want without consequence. Maybe it's because I do too much thinking and even when it never results in anything tangible or anything that involves other people it's still important to me. But I understand what you're saying. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[feotakahari]

You're misunderstanding what "freedom of thought" means. It's not "freedom to have thoughts." It's "free exchange of thoughts." This isn't a case of two separate definitions--that's how the term has historically been used.

[sarillia]

You're right, but I stand by my annoyance at people pretending that discouraging certain types of speech is analogous to the Thought Police. True thought-policing would be scary beyond anything a lack of free speech looks like.

I can accept that I'm being ridiculously literal and all the dystopian fiction I read has warped my brain.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yeah, but that other lesser thing is still goddamn scary.