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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-04 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2954 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2954 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Phineas & Ferb]


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[Roger Delgado]


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(Dangan Ronpa)


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[All Time Low]


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[personal profile] manzana 2015-02-05 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I actually used to love "big arcs" and think poorly of the more episodic, er, episodes, but now that I'm older I'm just like you.

I'm pretty sure it's because after a while all the "big arc"-type stories start to look alike.

"Nemesis that can't be caught/killed because they're so clever/lucky and acts from the shadows and is so mysterious and unknown for the first eleventy episodes."

"Must keep our shenanigans secret from this person because-"

And so on.

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-05 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, I LOATHE the sinister puppet master trope. The one exception for me is David Xanatos, and that's because he's in a universe where fucking gods, gargoyles, and magic exist. But in a supposedly "realistic" setting? No. No, Moriarity, you CAN'T predict that Sherlock would've pooped in his hat on Monday, thus setting off your great Poophat caper on Tuesday.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] silverr 2015-02-05 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
... unless, of course, Moriarty's spies have reported that Sherlock ALWAYS drops a deuce in the chapeau on Monday.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-05 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I hate you for making me try to think about this logically.

--Rogan

[personal profile] manzana 2015-02-06 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, exactly! It's not impossible to pull off, but you really need to sell the idea to the audience, not just write whatever tropes sound cool into your story and hope they do all the work for you.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-06 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. What annoys me with most of those puppet masters is that they never have anything go wrong! NEVER! I can like Xanatos, because you never feel like him winning is a foregone conclusion; part of the fun is his plan going wrong and him desperately trying to work out a Plan B. (This is also why I like Leverage.) I don't just want to watch some genius win; I want to see him STRUGGLE to do it, I want to see him work on his feet, I want to see his shit fall apart and him pulling it together in a way that makes me go, "OF COURSE!" but still be amazed.

But if nothing ever goes wrong, there's no tension! It's just watching a Rube Goldberg Machine, if Rube Goldberg Machines took themselves really fucking seriously. Sure, it's interesting in its complexity, but it's totally inorganic and doesn't allow you to showcase anything about the character except, LOOK HOW SMART HE IS.

When any guy could tell you that the more complex a plan is, the more likely it is that SOMETHING will go wrong. It's true for household technology, it's true for plans.

--Rogan