[ SECRET POST #2954 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2954 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Phineas & Ferb]


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[Roger Delgado]


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(Dangan Ronpa)


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[All Time Low]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #422.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I kind of resent the implication that service class is a negative or meaningless role for a character to have in a story.

Why? It's not meaningless, and a service-class person can play a relevant role, have a great personality, and be a great person.

That doesn't mean it's a good thing that an entire race or gender was stuck doing a certain kind of work--especially when it's work that is more dangerous, more repetitive, dirty, physically demanding, and lower compensation, than other work.

There's nothing wrong with being a teacher, secretary, operator, or nurse. There IS something wrong with those being the only careers open to women in the post-war 1940's. Covering that up and having Jill the Nuclear Engineer, Carrie the Neurosurgeon, Amanda the Plumber, Sarah the Police Commissioner, and Mayor Alice McGraw as the superhero characters in a 1940's show would tick me off a little. Almost none of us could be those things then, and even worse, we quite often can't be those things now.

The women that did those things back then were truly exceptional, and the bullshit they had to go through was often tremendous, and that shouldn't be erased because "fantasy".

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[darkmanifest]

I'm sorry, I think some wires are getting crossed here? Everything you just said is what I agree with, that service class roles aren't inherently shameful or useless. I definitely wasn't implying that groups of people being slotted into specific roles in real life is ever okay, so how dare minorities ever complain about wanting access to other roles. I meant that in fiction, a black character shouldn't have to be either upper-class or not in a period piece at all because being service-class is so icky, because that's bullshit.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I think the concern is more that having black characters in service-class can really easily play into a bunch of old racist memes, especially if those are the only roles they get. There's nothing wrong with service-class roles but I can understand why people are touchy given that used to be how film worked for black people.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[darkmanifest]

Yeah, that's true. I guess I got my back up over the idea that the roles have to play into Magical Negro-type shit, instead of being as important and dynamic as the upper-class characters. But that's not something that happens with servant characters of any race in most stories.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

Would that it were, would that it were.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I think you're right about the wires crossed. I thought you were calling me out for implying service roles were bad, like I was being classist or something. Sorry, I've been spending too much time on tumblr I guess ):

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[darkmanifest]

Shit, yeah, I was calling out Pierce and her detractors on tumblr for implying that in the link somewhere in this thread, not you. I should have replied there instead of making it seem like I was coming after you, my bad.