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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-05 07:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2955 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2955 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'd imagine "Dear Mavis" might be a bit of a mood-killer even for those who aren't immediately reminded of something else.

(What are these things?)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
[OP] The top image is the logo for the eponymous magic guild in the manga/anime Fairy Tail [sic]. The guild's founder was called Mavis; she still hangs around as a sort of patron ghost.

The bottom image is the album cover for Attack of the Grey Lantern, released in the late 90s by a band called Mansun (who, I'd guess, were probably pretty much unknown outside the UK...). Several of the songs' (very daft) lyrics mention someone called Mavis:
http://www.lemec.net/mansunly.html
...really, it's hard to take anything seriously once you've got 'Stripper Vicar' or 'Egg Shaped Fred' stuck on repeat in your brain while reading.
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2015-02-06 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not in the fandom, but I've been in fandoms where similar verbal substitutions have been used ("Oh my Force!" Obi-Wan exclaimed) and they generally seem jarring, even without odd associations that make them extra-amusing.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I guess it can depend on how it's done. If it's a phrase that's genuinely used often in canon, then fair enough. But usually it seems to be something that will appear maybe once or twice EVER in the original source - then fanfic authors hear it and go, "Aha, a nifty turn of phrase that I can use to make my dialogue seem more in character!", and jam it in about six times per chapter.

I remember a lot of Harry Potter fics with constant pseudo-cursing that revolved around Merlin. And then there were a handful of other, far sillier ones, where everyone (even the Muggle-borns) would always swear by "the goddess" - because they do magic so OF COURSE they're automatically Wiccan! (even though there is absolutely no evidence of this in the books and a fair amount of circumstantial evidence against it.)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I for one will never see "Mavis" and not think "Beacon Teaches Typing".

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Same here!

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Image: the logo for the magic guild in the manga/anime Fairy Tail and the album cover for Mansun’s “Attack of the Grey Lantern.” [OP posted the full explanation in the second comment]

Text: Many authors for this [Fairy Tail] fandom have latched pretty hard onto the idea of characters swearing by Mavis - “Dear Mavis!”, “Mavis knows…” (as roughly equivalent to “Dear God!”, “God knows…”) and so forth.

Every time, my mind jumps to this [Attack of the Grey Lantern], and I sit cackling like an idiot for a few minutes. Which is fun, but often a mood-killer for the fic I was reading.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
! I love that album. I haven't listened to it in a long ass time. Thank you OP.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
[OP] You're welcome! \o/ It was an awesome album indeed.
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[personal profile] maldeluxx 2015-02-06 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like that album (though it's the only one from them that I like *runs*) <3

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[OP] My favourite individual songs were on Six (also the best cover art :D I had a six-foot-high poster of it on my bedroom wall). But Grey Lantern is overall the better album IMO - more cohesive, more dynamic, and generally less pretentious (despite the whole 'started to be a concept album then decided it couldn't be bothered' thing).
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[personal profile] maldeluxx 2015-02-06 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the later albums do have some good songs; I've burned them on my compilation CDs (I think). Grey Lantern has great cover art... I would want a poster of it :)
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-06 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I just can't take it seriously because Mavis sounds like someone's great-aunt.

--M/Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, in-canon, she was a woman who lived a hundred or so years before the main story, and was an authority figure to some of the older surviving characters. So... she's kind of vaguely great-auntish. (Though she's always appeared as a ghost of herself as a child, and it's implied she may have died young.)

What bugs me about this more is that Mavis wasn't the kind of person who you'd swear by. She was a very intelligent mage, and founded a guild that the main characters belong to, but not a major religious or even political figure. It'd be sort of like... I don't know, a baseball player saying, 'Oh my Doubleday!' habitually. It just sounds wrong.
lb_lee: The Blue Beetle, Ted Kord, doubled over laughing. (bwa-hah-ha)

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-06 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm enjoying imagining what swears would sound like if they were all named for well-known historical figures.

"Oh my Stan Lee!"

"You're out of your MLKin' mind!"

"GEORGE WASHING-DAMMIT!"

--Rogan