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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-05 07:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2955 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2955 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, on the occasions I write fanfics, they're probably rather pretentious and definitely overly wordy.

I'm probably in a minority of one here, but honestly? - I'd be happy to think someone is enjoying my writing even if it is for all the wrong reasons. I write primarily for my own amusement after all, but being able to entertain other people (even at my own expense) is still what makes it worth giving my limited free time to writing, rather than to any other hobby that I could do purely for my own amusement.

Either way, I'd rather have insincere praise than no feedback at all! (Of course I'd rather have flames than no feedback at all... personally, nothing is more disheartening than feeling like nobody's paying attention.)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I tend to think the OP is doing it right since at least they're being polite in their comments. At the moment it's win-win for everyone.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
My writing tends towards the overly wordy, and I'd be so fucking hurt and mortified if I found out that someone had left a glowing review on one of my fics just because they wanted to laugh at my writing some more. I'd rather not get any comments at all than get one from someone who's trying to trick me into repeatedly humiliating myself for them. Hell, I'd rather get straight up rude comments than get comments from someone like OP.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Even if you never find out? And the OP admits they're enjoying the fics, even if not perhaps in the most flattering way to the writer.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
da but the phrase "if I found out" kinda negates the "even if you never found out" question?? I mean they couldn't react to it if they never did.

But in general the anxiety of being afraid someone is only pretending to like you/your work makes sense to me.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously I can't be upset if I don't know, but it's not okay to do a shitty thing just because the wronged party will never find out. And they're only enjoying the fics because they enjoy laughing at the shitty writing? That's way far beyond perhaps not the most flattering way to the writer.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ayrt

I guess I didn't really think my comment through. If it happened to me I don't know how I'd react.

It just seems like a really common way that people enjoy things when they're so bad it's good. Everyone's definition of that is different so it's not even really a slight to the creator.

There's some TV I only watch so I can do my own mocking commentary on it with my friends. It's fun and hurts no one. The OP sounded like they were doing it in this spirit. I do my own personal dramatic readings of My Immortal from time to time in the same vein.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's one thing to hate-read something. It's another thing to hate-read, and then leave a comment praising the author and claiming that you genuinely (not in a so-bad-it's-good way) enjoyed the fic. The first is harmless. The second is cruel.

When you leave fake praise, you're directly involving them in the joke you're having at their expense. OP is leaving insincere positive comments in order to trick the oblivious author into writing more badfic so that they can continue laughing at them. The end result is that the author is being laughed at for their shitty writing by the very person who told them that their writing is great and encouraged them to write more. That's... a lot more malicious than just dramatically reading My Immortal to your friends or whatever. I don't think that most people go that far when they hate-read things, or that most people would consider that to be a normal and acceptable part of hate-reading. I mean, that's why it's a secret, right?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I feel out of the loop here because I still don't really see why it's so bad.

If the OP is praising those parts of the fic deliberately that they found the worst, well, those were also the parts they enjoyed the most.

If the OP was making posts publicly mocking the fics or the authors, or laughing about how they fooled the writers, now that would be horrible. But what they're doing now seems at worst neutral.

Unless some fanfic writers really take the comments of every random reader as gospel on how to improve their writing or which direction to go next, in which case that's a whole other problem.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really know how I'm supposed to explain to you why it's mean to pretend to compliment someone as part of a joke.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Has the OP never been in high school? Have they never experienced backhanded compliments. Or, at the very least, watched Mean Girls?

How about American Idol? I mean, all those absolutely terrible cringeworthy singers who embarass themselves on stage - they probably got a LOT of insincere praise.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm starting to wonder that myself. Their apparent inability to comprehend this has to be caused by either lack of experience or lack of empathy, and I'd rather believe the former.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Lol I was just thinking "You ever watched Mean Girls?"

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
But the OP said they got a kick out of the fic. Why do we all have to enjoy things in the same way?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Why is "lying to someone so you can laugh at them behind their backs more" a hard concept for you to grasp?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-06 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Like someone below said, if they posted comments or feedback that said "I got a kick out of this" then that'd be fine. That'd be true.

When you're lying and telling the writer their work is brilliant just to get them to fuck up even more for your personal entertainment, then that isn't about enjoying things differently, that's about being deliberately mocking and cruel.