[ SECRET POST #2957 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2957 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[fscom]

09. https://i.imgur.com/WF8gxjt.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

IA. Even though I don't play 4E (or any other D&D edition), peoples' arguments against it are often really dumb and just infuriatingly reflexive and knee jerk. It's almost at the point where you feel like a lot of people hate on it because hating on 4E has become a way to prove your bona fides as a Real D&D Fan and that is dumb and annoying.

It's also interesting because the main place that I go to talk about RPGs is extremely pro-4th Edition, and open to criticisms of pre-4E D&D games. Without being doctrinaire about it, but it's definitely the general zeitgeist. Which means that talking about it on other places on the net or IRL gets even more frustrating, because not only are people annoying about the system, there's also always a little shock of surprise when they start doing it.

Hobbies are dumb. The Internet is dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

OP Here.

It's not even necessarily online where it gets me the most. I've figured out what sites react which ways, and change my behavior expectations to match. But when I'm in a group IRL and someone does it? I'm surprised an artery doesn't pop.

What prompted my posting of this was playing a multiplayer game of Magic, of all things. I played a card in the hope of painting a target on another player's head, and said, "In 4e D&D, there's a class called the Warlord. The Barbarian hits you with a club, but the Warlord hits you with the Barbarian!" You know, likening my play to a Warlord's action-granting powers.

Or, at least, that's what I would have said if I hadn't been cut off at "4e D&D." It was /immediately/ met with a few of the players being asses about it. Ruined my night.

[(Anonymous)]

That stinks so hard. Yeah, it's definitely frustrating when it just comes up out of the blue. I feel your pain, extremely much.

[(Anonymous)]

Neat lizardman!

Yeah, that's all I have to contribute.

[diet_poison]

I love that lizard person/creature/?. He/she/it looks really cool

[(Anonymous)]

@diet_poison and the upthread anon

They're called "dragonborn" and are essentially dragonfolk. Breath weapon, scales, et cetera.

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: D&D art of a lizard-person fighter and a human magic user in a cave

Text: It was cool to hate on 4E seven years ago. I’ve been sick of hearing it for that long, can I please mention this game in passing without someone reminding me how bad they thought it was?

(They’re usually horribly ill-informed about the game, too.)

S!B: I’ve moved on to other games in other systems. I should have been over this seven years ago, too. But it infuriates me every time. It’s a good thing I have some self control, or I’d have been in a ton of needless, stupid arguments the last few years.

[lb_lee]

I missed 4E. :( So I've only played 3.5. I'm curious, but I haven't had anyone to play with in AGES.

--Sneak

[(Anonymous)]

There's a 4E now, huh? *Still playing 2.5*

[(Anonymous)]

There's a *5e* now. As the secret says, 4e was new seven years ago.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Heh. Don't mind me, I'll just be over here with my fellow dinosaurs, waiting for the meteor.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Most of my grudge against 4e was due to fluff, and the deletion of races and reassignment of their race names to something boringly prosaic as Elves (Eladrin celestials sounded cool). Only one of my favourite goddesses who god killed off was returned, and at the cost of killing off all but the most annoying of her Chosen.

[(Anonymous)]

(OP)

A lot of that is particular to certain settings, though. Eberron only had Eladrin and Dragonborn added in distant corners of the world, for example. :/

Personally, I always found the setting text was the easiest to ignore or rewrite anyways - I know of plenty of people who ran games in pre-Spellplague FR. 'Sides which, If you didn't like the new setting fluff, you're not who I'm complaining about - that's a legit complaint, but not the one I'm addressing here. It's the gits the trot out "it's an MMO!" as a defense for telling people they're having fun the wrong way.