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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

To play devil's advocate, I think there is a difference between best friends and bromance. It's a specific type of best friend. But IA it doesn't need even more terms

[(Anonymous)]

DA

"A specific type of best friend" makes it even worse, IMO. We shall all be bled to death by a thousand paper cuts of a million different labels.... *grump*

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's that bad because best friend is already so broad and says nothing else about the relationship dynamics besides that "it's the strongest one the characters have" in the same way that "relationship" doesn't say anything about the dynamics besides that "one exists" but ymmv I suppose

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

...and the problem with broad labels is...?

I'm not being snarky, I am legitimately serious here. Am I so wrong for wanting a little simplicity in life?

...or maybe I need to go live with the Mennonites IDK...

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing is wrong with them. Nobody is demanding that you be more specific. You're the one asking why these are necessary and why someone else would want them, and... perhaps because people prefer things you do not prefer?

What is wrong with someone else wanting to be more specific? Does it bother you or something? Why not let them do what they want, if you're free to be as broad as you like?

I don't know how to answer you here

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I kind of answered this below? I just think the super-compartmentalization thing really isn't healthy, in any respect, for anyone. I say this about all of the labels (not just this specific one) that get tossed around e.g. Tumblr and such. It adds an unnecessary layer of complication that can lead to more narrower mindsets, as well as self-esteem issues for those who both label themselves, and insist on labelling others; the second group being worse than the first group, obviously.

Why haven't some of these kids' parents talked to them and said, "You know what? You don't have to have a million different labels to be a unique individual, you're unique all on your own!" Depending on the age of the child, you can get in to DNA etc.

Maybe that's too much to expect from parents in their 20s and 30s these days.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you are taking this waaaay too far and seriously from "a bromance is a kind of best friend-ship"

Would you be this concerned if I said "femmeslash is a kind of romance"? Does it not deserve a specification so it should just be labeled romance for the sake of the children? What is general enough for you

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Meh, I'm just musing on the general state of the world as a result of the 1,001 labels kids have started sticking on themselves. Like I said, it's not just this one term in particular, this discussion just kind of got me to thinking (and typing) about how I think the whole trend to define yourself, and even worse, your social relationships with others, by a large number of strictly-defined labels, is not healthy to, you know, actually having relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

Femmeslash is a genre term for people too thick to read pairing labels. Unless it's on AO3 and then it's a reasonable tag for sorting purposes. Your analogy is faulty.

People don't need labels for their labels. Broad categories are generally fine for most purposes.

[(Anonymous)]

Bromance is a genre term for people too thick to read labels, too. I find it reasonable for sorting purposes such as on AO3. I don't see how that's a faulty analogy at all

[(Anonymous)]

Real people don't have 'bromances'. Films have bromances. Or fics.

[(Anonymous)]

Real people don't have 'femmeslashes' either so you seem to be backing up my analogy?

[(Anonymous)]

sorry, maybe i'm crazy, but isn't femmeslash just a turn for ladies hooking up?

[(Anonymous)]

Femslash isn't a noun. Femslash just means the story it applies to contains a f/f relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a thought on this, in a general label sense. It's backlash against the fact that people label, people always label, and when you can't escape being labeled all the time you start going "Fine, if I get a label, EVERYONE gets a label."

I'm a Transgender Person? Fine, you don't get to be (Normal) Person, you get to be Cisgender Person. If I'm Black Person? You're White Person. I'm Homosexual Person? You're Heterosexual Person. I'm a Woman Person, you're a Man Person.

And you get people whining that they don't waaaant to be Cisgender White Heterosexual Man Person. They're fine with person, can't you just call them Normal Person? What's with all the labels?

Except they still want all the labels to apply to all those Other Persons. Or the labels can't help but apply to all the Other Persons. Raising your Person to be colorblind won't do a damn thing to help them if they try to insist they're a Person and society still treats them as a Black Person. They're stuck with that label, forever.

And no matter how much people insist, you're still going to pick up labels. People will categorize you and make assumptions and treat you differently based on height, weight, hair color, clothing, typing style, language, a thousand different things. What's so wrong about doing it to yourself? At least you get to chose it then.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I can understand that a lot of people use labels in this way. I could even see that this is how to trend to over-label everything began.

However, a significant proportion of people -- especially younger people -- are using them in a divisive way, and to emphasize their special snowflake status because hey, they've decided they have all these labels so they're like some kind of unique serial number... until they're the exact same serial number as hundreds of other kids doing the exact same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Is it new though? I mean in my high school everyone went on and on about how they were special and unique like everyone else.

I mean I went though a maybe-I-want-to-be-goth phase and there were a zillion different labels for exactly what kind of goth you were based on music, clothes, makeup, hair color, activities, and so on. I don't really think it's some brand new thing Tumblr invented.

[dahli]

Mmmmh. I see what you're trying to say, but I think Best Friends is something that covers the term perfectly. "Friends that are super close and can be or not be in a relationship and their sexuality doesn't matter". Queerplatonic sounds like it's trying to shoehorn in a new term that isn't needed.

It's like having someone renaming dogs and calling them kahooles.