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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-07 04:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2957 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not feminist because of what the board does, it's feminist because of what Elle (and the other women) do.

It's not feminist because she gets in to Harvard - or why she wants to go in the first place - but because she succeeds in her work there, relies on and reciprocates supportive female friendships, gets over a dude who doesn't value her, and refuses to let anyone tell her she shouldn't value the feminine things she loves, or that jettisoning them is somehow the price of success, and wins respect from her classmates without compromising on that. Also sticks to her principles when that slimeball professor tries to extort sexual favors from her.

My personal biggest peeve with the movie is that she gets her big courtroom success more or less entirely by lucky coincidence - the sorority connection + the perm thing - rather than really showing she also has the pure law chops. But as a 1L she probably shouldn't at that point anyway?? And it comes back to the feminine also being valuable.

Is it perfect, or say everything worth saying about feminism? Of course not. But there's a lot of good stuff in it that is pretty rare to see, especially in funny mainstream popular stuff.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I couldn't have said it better myself, anon.

Especially on the perm thing - sure it's made for Elle, but it's also something no one else in that courtroom would have picked up on. So it's pretty cool that her seemingly frivolous knowledge won the case.

And on the sorority connection with the exercise woman whose name I don't remember — wasn't part of that the fact that Elle was the only on on the legal team who didn't assume she was guilty and was kind to her? It's been a while since I've seen the movie.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. She believed her thoroughly, while everyone else was just, "It's my job lol whatever."

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I believe the rest of the team was trying to get the exercise lady to plead guilty and only Elle believed that she could be innocent.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-07 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this. And what's nice about this movie is that even with Elle being super feminine she still has respect for other women even if they're not. The romantic rival who is the polar opposite of her ends up being her friend in the end.

Elle wants other women to value themselves and that is a super feminist message.

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[personal profile] ceebeegee 2015-02-08 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
But isn't thinking on your feet--the perm thing--part of being a trial lawyer? She proves it in other ways as well, when she figures out that the pool boy was gay.

I just adore this movie. LOVE the epiphany she has at the party--"I'll never be good enough for you, will I?" And when she walks past the nerdy guy getting shot down and uses her Hot Blonde status to prop him up. Elle is such a sweetheart.