[ SECRET POST #2957 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2957 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[tabaqui]

The 'spade' comment is *not* racist. it's origins are from Plutarch, and it's about telling things truthfully and straightforwardly, not using 'kinder, gentler' terms to mask an ugly truth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[(Anonymous)]

[OP]

Wait, so I was right? It IS the garden tool? Man! I could have saved myself so much heartache.

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[tabaqui]

It is, though originally it *wasn't*, yay for mistranslations. The explanation at the site is interesting.

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[(Anonymous)]

It certainly is. Thanks :)

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know that! Thank you.

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[(Anonymous)]

I'd honestly never heard of people thinking "call a spade a spade" had a racist meaning until this thread right now today.

I've even heard the phrase used in a gardening joke, for goodness sake! It wouldn't work if a spade weren't a gardening tool!

The spade as a suit of playing cards is named after the tool/object. The symbol is supposed to represent a spade/shovel. People are getting their etymology backwards if they think the word "spade" ultimately refers to the suit and not a shovel.

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[tabaqui]

Sadly, people just don't take time to research stuff, and a lot of people jump to the 'obvious' conclusion. Which - yay, it's nice you don't want to be offensive and racist, but do *try* to know what you're talking about if you go off on a rant.

I love etymology and have always been fascinated by the origins of words and phrases. It annoys me when people just don't *bother*.

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[(Anonymous)]

"I've even heard the phrase used in a gardening joke, for goodness sake! It wouldn't work if a spade weren't a gardening tool!"

Er, yes it still could work, it's just that it'd be a pun. Lots of puns work on the basis of a word being construed to have more than one meaning, like "bass" the instrument vs. "bass" the fish.

Re: Common phrases/words that get totally misunderstood

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure the symbol was originally supposed to represent a sword or pike--the "spade" comes not from the garden tool but from "spada," the Italian word for sword.