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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-07 04:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2957 ]


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Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I can't speak to the anti-vaxxers, because I think everyone should get vaccinations. However, I'm fully behind organic things. I would like to eat foods that have ingredients I can pronounce. And I think it's ludicrous that companies refuse to label GMO foods that have been altered. Heaven forbid that I don't want to eat produce that's been altered so it's immune to Round Up so they can douse it in Round Up. But I think a lot of the food industry problem is big business, and has nothing to do with science and doctors. High fructose corn syrup isn't used because it's more scientific, it's because it's cheaper than sugar. Corn and soy isn't used in everything because it's better, it's because of farming subsidies. Sorry for the tangent, but all 'organic' isn't bad. Granola bars are great.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers?

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-02-08 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Organic isn't necessarily bad but sometimes it's a label used when there's actually nothing different about the product. And if it's better it's better because it's better in a specific way (like not being treated with certain chemicals that we know are toxic) and not because it's natural.

Basically people should know what they eat, and this applies to those who are too lazy to care as well as those who think a buzzword means it's better.

The GMO thing really makes me roll my eyes too. GMOs aren't necessarily bad. I'm not inherently opposed to labeling them but so much of what we eat has been modified that the movement to get them to be labeled is silly to me, and it perpetuates this "GMO = bad" cultural attitude that is ignorant and misleading.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
But don't you know? Science is BAD. Thomas Edison was a witch, after all!

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly! We shouldn't necessarily be worried about GMOs.

The more concerning thing is the amount of control and power MONSANTO has over GMOs. There shouldn't be one company with that much power.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Actually, Monsanto isn't the only player in the transgenic crop market. Syngenta and Du Pont are other key players but don't get that much press. In fact, Du Point has more seed patents/transgenic crop products commercially available. I've been hanging out a lot on GMOLOL and listening to the conversations the farmers and those passionate about agricultural science/development chat about the state of the industry. Monsanto is but one option, and they actually don't have as much of the commercial market share as many media outlets hype.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
DA

The problem isn't their share of the market, the problem is how hideously unethical they are.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Labelling foods as containing GMOs or not is effectively useless, because the label (or lack thereof, if labelling GMO use were to become mandatory) isn't a magic circle that prevents seed drift or cross-pollination. I guarantee you the companies that label their foods GMO-free are not springing for the time-consuming and costly random genome sampling that would be required to verify their labels.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I would like to eat foods that have ingredients I can pronounce.

This is actually the weirdest argument for being pro-organic ever. Can you pronounce all the chemicals that make up an apple? Because I don't know anyone that can who hasn't taken chemistry.

http://i.imgur.com/i5FL3.jpg

Which isn't to say that not wanting pesticides and such on your foods is a bad thing. Organic is definitely good for a lot of reasons, but none of them are really related to how easy something is to say.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps that was a stupid way to put it. But, for example, I don't like looking at the back of a package of potato flakes and seeing a whole long list of things there besides "dried potato." I don't like looking at an ingredient list and seeing things like high fructose corn syrup, Red 40, or artificial flavors, even if I can pronounce them.

Re: Anti-vaxxers?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that organic farmers use pesticides too, just different ones. Ones that actually haven't been studied that much.