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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-07 04:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2957 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2957 ⌋

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OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
However as a servant she was unlikely to sit on the throne. Do you want Merlin to start a revolution to get a crown on her head? Or to work as a servant's servant?

For time reasons I didn't elaborate in the actual secret, but I see the situation as this:

The show ends with Guinevere as Queen, and Arthur dead. Having not brought back magic, or united the realm, or ruled over the Golden Age (and the creators confirming in an interview that Guinevere DID do all these things) the only truly important thing Arthur ever did was marry Guinevere.

So assuming that the dragon did have some omnipotent knowledge of future events - why did he instruct Merlin to waste his time on Arthur? Ironically, the ONLY major development on this show that WASN'T based on the concept of destiny was the fact that Arthur fell in love with Guinevere and made her Queen. The dragon never mentioned her. Not once.

So from where I'm sitting, the dragon HAD to be senile, stupid, or a troll. If he really knew how all this would pan out, he would have told Merlin to play matchmaker to Arthur/Guinevere, endure Arthur's shitty treatment of him, and then jump ship to Guinevere as soon as she took the throne.

From a storytelling perspective, nothing else makes sense to me. Either the dragon was wrong and Merlin should have ditched him entirely, or Arthur was only important insofar that he made Guinevere Queen of Camelot - and either way, Merlin would have been much better off concentrating on her well being post-wedding.

(Yeah, I know most of this is simply down to terrible writing, but what we're left with in the story itself is a dragon-shaped device upon which ALL the story rested, who turned out to be completely wrong about everything).

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
The show ends with Guinevere as Queen, and Arthur dead. Having not brought back magic, or united the realm, or ruled over the Golden Age (and the creators confirming in an interview that Guinevere DID do all these things) the only truly important thing Arthur ever did was marry Guinevere.

This is actually a really interesting point - the only valuable contribution to the Golden Age of Camelot that Arthur made was in his choice of wife.

I think there is a strong argument to be made for the fact that he would not have married Gwen, nor would he have been someone she was attracted to, had it not been for Merlin's influence on him. Gwen clearly does not like Arthur in the first episode and doesn't develop fondness for him until she gets to know him through his relationship with Merlin. Likewise, prior to his friendship with Merlin, his servant, I don't think he would have ever considered a servant as a romantic prospect. So in his own way, Merlin was the force that brought Arthur and Gwen together, and got Gwen on the throne.

And all of this could be said to be why the Dragon constantly harps on Merlin to save Arthur's ass all the damn time - he had to live long enough to fall in love with and marry the woman would WOULD bring peace and unity and the return to magic.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-08 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. And like I said, it's the only way the story (as it was depicted here) makes any sense at all - barring the fact that the dragon never mentioned Guinevere at all.

Re: OP

[personal profile] solticisekf 2015-02-08 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say the script writer were on crack.)

Maybe the dragon meant that they will be reborn again and then become the parts of the same coin.

I don't see the dragon as a good guy. He pursuers his own interests, so he told it because he wanted Merlin to free him. Maybe Merlin wanted to hear it and wouldn't believe the info about Gven, so that's what the dragon's told him.