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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-07 04:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #2957 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2957 ⌋

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-08 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Enh. I hung out on We Hunted The Mammoth, where there was Troll of the Year contests. (I'm STILL mad that the guy who earnestly claimed Saudi Arabia was a matriarchy, that female penguins were whores, and that hard chairs at his university were discriminatory against men LOST. My vote should've been a sure thing! DAMN THAT FUCKER THE ULTIMATE SOCKPUPPET FOR STEALING HIS RIGHTFUL CROWN.)

That said, I do miss the atmosphere on Mammoth where you tried to feed the trolls till they exploded. Trolls are much easier to deal with when you don't feel obligated to ignore them and pretend that they'll go away. (We had at least one troll who hung around for YEARS, blathering about Title IX and fluoride and the Illuminati Jew conspiracy.)

--Rogan
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[personal profile] ceebeegee 2015-02-08 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I just discovered that site! Love them!
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-08 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I really loved being around there. Unfortunately, transphobia drove off a lot of trans members, including me. One day, I hope to return, but not until I have proof something concrete is being done about the problem.

--Rogan
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-08 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I like your attitude. I hate the way half the time when a troll posts here, people start yelling at the people responding to them rather than the troll. Sometimes the ones replying are laughing at them rather than replying seriously and they're still getting yelled at for "feeding the troll" because apparently the principle of the thing matters more than whether people are actually bothered by the troll. We are obligated to ignore them at all times.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-08 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I myself have always been pretty cynical about the "don't feed the troll" mindset. It just seems a new variant of, "if you ignore them, they'll go away."

Seriously, if someone came into a party and started shitting in the punchbowl, most people at the party would have them ejected. They wouldn't just go, "Ignore them, they always do this, they just want attention." Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but they're still wrecking the party.

--Rogan

(Anonymous) 2015-02-09 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
In meatspace, I totally agree with you. Online, I guess it depends. If a troll is attacking people, then ignoring them is tacitly supporting those attacks. If the troll is just posting shit to post shit, then a lot of times they're just looking for a reaction and giving it to them just encourages them to keep finding new punchbowls to shit in. Plus, ignoring them was a lot easier back in ye olde days of the internet, when you could killfile the trolls (so less "ignore them and they'll go away" and more "shun the nonbeliever"). Ah, Usenet. How I miss you in all your wanky glory.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-09 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but it can sometimes be difficult to differentiate one kind of troll from the other, especially if they're the hit-and-run type.

Also, my experience is apparently kind of weird in that all the people who've trolled me (and I mean focused on ME personally, not the Mammoth Troll Brigade) were people I already knew, often very well. It wasn't some random anon looking for attention; it was an abusive relationship often online AND off, with the troll sometimes trying to PRETEND they were an anon (or MANY anons) to make me believe I was being ganged up on.

So I haven't really encountered the trolls who want attention. I've met the trolls who want to cause me pain, and utterly DELIGHT in environments where people won't feed them, because there will be no curtail on their behavior.

See, THAT kind of ignore actually sounds more useful. But I definitely came from environments on LJ where you were encouraged to do the other kind of ignore--and this included comm mods. Because feeding a troll would be 'drama,' never mind that the troll is causing plenty all on their own.

--Rogan

--Rogan