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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-11 05:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #2961 ]


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Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2015-02-11 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] fscom 2015-02-11 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
[image: Christopher Lee and Edward Woodward, as Lord Summerisle and Sergeant Howie in 'The Wicker Man']

This film made a huge impact on me. I thought it was amazing and would definitely rank it as one of the top ten best films I've seen in my life. Usually I rewatch favourite films pretty often, but I've only seen this once, and would be happy never to see it again.

...It's the most skin-crawlingly horrifying film I have EVER seen. I had nightmares for months after watching it. That was years ago, and thinking about it can still make me feel sick and anxious.

(Even fellow fans tend to view it as some "cheesy camp cult classic" that's not worth taking seriously. The number of times I've heard it dismissed as "not really a horror movie" makes me wonder if we were watching the same thing.)
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[personal profile] mab_browne 2015-02-12 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Cheesy? What movie were they watching, indeed? It's immensely unsettling and upsetting, is what it is.

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Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This is one of my all-time favorite movies and, IIRC, Christopher Lee said it's still his favorite of all the roles he's played (which is saying a LOT).

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh, I've not seen that often from fellow fans, dismissing it as just camp. It's deeply unsettling, IMO, and the juxtaposition of the last moments is really horrific for me. (I mean, in general burning and being buried alive are the two most awful awful kinds of nightmare deaths for me, and that is kinda almost both.)

I can't even talk about the remake, sob.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2015-02-11 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Shoulder numbers, but no borough code.

This annoys me way more then it should.

Wicker man pls your uniform was so close to exact replica.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Was there possibly a code forbidding exact replica of then contemporary police uniforms? (I mean, costume departmens constantly fuck up everwhere all over the world, but there's always the possibility of them simply not having been able to be any more accurate because of really obscure laws that were only in effect for a couple of years or something.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, it was one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen and for several years completely changed how I saw folk music.

I think a lot of it was to do with how many characters round where I live are like the policeman, hard line Scottish not-on-the-Sabbath Presbyterians and it's a hard struggle putting up with them (their homophobia for instance). I identified much more with the Lord of the Isles which made the end scarier. I wanted him to burn even though he'd done nothing wrong. That was what scared me.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I had a similar-yet-opposite experience - the Howie-types I know IRL being essentially decent people, despite their flaws. Some of them even in law enforcement and - like Howie - always seemed capable of putting aside personal prejudices when it came to their professional lives. So I basically rooted for him despite him being kind of a prick (though in justice to Edward Woodward, a lesser actor wouldn't have been able to pull off such a flawed character yet still make him sympathetic).

Plus I spent the whole film in serious doubt as to whether Summerisle believed any of the stuff he was feeding the islanders; it came off to me as more like a religion-placebo he used to keep them happy. Which made him much harder to view sympathetically. (Although YMMV on whether having the blind faith to wholeheartedly believe in the awful stuff they're doing makes characters more or less sympathetic....?)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This is one of the best horror films ever made in my opinion, people who dismiss it have probably seen too many blood-soaked slasher films and expect every horror film to be filled with obviously scary imagery. This is so much better because it feels so real and it "tricks" you in a way. It's shot like your average crime mystery tv show, nearly everything happens in bright, sunny daylight, there's this cheerful folk music playing ... and it just makes all the creepy imagery ten times more horrifying, because you're not expecting it.

Skin-crawling for sure.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I legit wonder how much the remake has to do with all that.

[identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com 2015-02-11 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. The original, while odd, isn't memetically ridiculous like the remake was.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
fuck yeah, Wicker Man secret! I love this damn movie so much!

What scared me about it, is how different religions/views completely tear people apart, make us unable to listen to another person or see things from their point of view and perspective and ultimately how people see each other as less then human because of a different life-style, which makes it easier for them to lead others to the slaughter like cattle.

Hits very close to home.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I sincerely hope they're talking about the remake, because the original is wonderful, and yes, horrifying. I love the utter grey area the whole thing takes place in-- it feels like "rooting for" either side is wrong. The ending is so unsettling for me because it's somehow a happy ending and a bad ending all at once, especially since you're left wondering...did it work? Was their next harvest bountiful?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-11 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...and if it didn't work, what did they do the next year?

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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2015-02-12 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
The Wicker Man wasn't exactly frightening to me, but it does have this deeply unsettling quality to it that really sticks with me, even years later. Like, the police officer is such a fucking judgmental asshole I couldn't bring myself to like him or to root for him, but you definitely can't root for Lord Summerisle either, because, y'know, murder and human sacrifice are bad.

I think that's what makes it really effective horror, because it puts you in a spot where, emotionally, you want to root for the bad guys.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Strangely enough, I remember disliking the MC for those reasons when I first watched the movie when I was like, 16, but then when I was 18 I re-watched and found I liked him a lot more; regardless of his personal beliefs he was doing his best to find a missing child and the islanders excelled at dicking him around, so I kind of felt for him. Of course, the islanders were all Magnificent Bastards, so I liked them too.

Except the landlord guy. He was kind of creepy...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
the exact reverse happened in history, though. Pagans were burned to death by christians for witchcraft.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think most of the people getting burned to death for witchcraft would have described themselves as Christian and probably would have been offended if you called them pagan. Some of them were quasipagan heterodox Christians; many of them were unremarkable Christians who pissed off the wrong person or happened to be the wrong age and gender in the wrong town at the wrong time. (And of course a lot of Christians were burned to death for heresy because they were the wrong kind of Christian.)

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Um, okay? I don't think OP was postulating otherwise?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-12 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
????? this has literally nothing to do with the secret

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I AM THE SAME

[personal profile] tyger66 2015-02-12 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
That movie is one of the most terrifying things ever to exist, imo. It's just a crawling sense of horror that increases exponentially with each passing minute. >.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2015-02-12 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I loved this movie so much. Pagans! Doing actual pagan things! Though the 'burning people to death' bit was rather horrifying.

But, yes - the smiling, happy, 'it's all good' way they go about utterly tricking, misleading and then killing Officer Howie is utterly horrifying.

As were the costumes at the end - the Punch and so-on. Totally freaked me out.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-13 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Reading all the comments for this movie has made me actually want to see it. It sounds like the kind of horror I'd really enjoy!

--Rogan