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⌈ Secret Post #2963 ⌋

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[Underbelly: Razor, linked for (live action) sex/partial nudity]

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08. [ SPOILERS for Durarara!! Light Novels ]

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09. [ SPOILERS for Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness ]

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12. [ WARNING for abuse ]

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13. [ WARNING for rape ]

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I'm fairly agnostic on this (seriously, I don't know what I think) but I'm not sure how true this is: I kind of feel as adults, we really should know that already, and I'm not reading porn to learn how to have a real life relationship.

I mean, I definitely agree that it should be true, but I have to say that there are many cases where it doesn't seem to be. And I also think there is, perhaps, a gap where you can avoid explicitly characterizing a relationship as problematic, but also avoid positioning it as eternal, true love. And I think that's something where 50 Shades of Gray might actually fall down.

What would you say to that?

"And I also think there is, perhaps, a gap where you can avoid explicitly characterizing a relationship as problematic, but also avoid positioning it as eternal, true love. And I think that's something where 50 Shades of Gray might actually fall down."

I'm not really bothered. I even thought about this question, but realized I've read loads of novel-length erotic fictions that have been about characters in unhealthy relationships that still end up together at the end. It's just fiction, and just fantasy. I actually get annoyed when a narrative does feel like its preaching to me, preachy writing is a massive pet peeve of mine.

That being said, outside the narrative, I certainly agree that we should be more honest. But I think there's a massive difference in a young woman saying "aww Christian Grey is so dreamy" (doesn't really bother me, seems like fantasizing) and "I want a boyfriend just like him." (potentially actually serious)

If it is strictly advertised as 18+, then we should all be adults, and frankly I think if you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, the fault is yours, not the story's. However, I am VERY supportive of more conversations about consent and distinguishing fantasy as such, and I'm all for articles that point out the abuse in the relationship and such. Those discussions are important to have.

I'm just annoyed at people who shame women who want to see the film, as though they are directly supporting domestic abuse, or their fragile brains will instantly be brainwashed into wanting an abusive relationship.

I think that's a very fair point.

I do wonder how much of this comes down to subcultures and perception. I mean, certainly, pretty much everyone in Internet blogland is going to be pretty well aware of the flaws and issues with the story in re consent etc. But part of the problem of the discussion is that I think that we in Internet blogland have kind of a hard time getting an accurate picture of what people are thinking outside of Internet blogland and so the discussion gets really confused.

It's frustrating.

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