[ SECRET POST #2963 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2963 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. http://i.imgur.com/wuz6aW0.jpg
[Underbelly: Razor, linked for (live action) sex/partial nudity]

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06. http://i.imgur.com/5jIgSLi.gifv
[Jurassic World / Guardians of the Galaxy, animated gif]


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[Steven Universe]


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08. [ SPOILERS for Durarara!! Light Novels ]



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09. [ SPOILERS for Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness ]



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10. [ SPOILERS for Naruto ]



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11. [ WARNING for non-con ]

[Banshee]


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12. [ WARNING for abuse ]



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13. [ WARNING for rape ]







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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I can't.

I'm a queer woman. My queerness does not make me dangerous. It does not allow me to set people on fire with a thought, or put me at risk for being possessed by terrifying otherworldly entities that can and will slaughter hundreds of people.

I find the parallels irritating and heavy-handed in canon, and the fans who treat being a mage (or a mutant, or a werewolf, or any other potential murdermachine that's latched onto as being just like gay people) pretty fucking insulting, to be honest. Fear of dangerous supernatural entities that can kill you with a thought just by being careless is perfectly reasonable. Fear of people who are not heterosexual is not. Treating the former like the latter at best trivializes the issue, and at worst sounds a lot like weasel words for "the homophobes are kind of right, you know".

[(Anonymous)]

Way to be ~pretty fucking insulting~ to other ~queer~ people who identify with mages. =/

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that's because mages were never meant to be a metaphor for gay rights, but rather mental illness. That's why Anders, who is confirmed to be canonically bipolar, also had the whole justice storyline.

From the writers themselves:

"I do find it odd, though, that Anders is not discussed in regards to the treatment of the mentally ill. For me, that is primarily what his relationship is about — the difficulties of loving and trying to help someone who struggles with a part of himself that he cannot control and may never be able to control. It is certainly the experience I drew from when writing him, and I think it uses the fantasy setting in the way I most prefer to see — providing a magical metaphor for exploring real-world problems. To me, this is the central feature of his character — not whether he is gay or straight, but the inner demons (personified as Justice/Vengeance), which both he and you, as his lover, must struggle against every day."

[(Anonymous)]

This never even crossed my mind, but now that you mention it... damn, it does seem obvious. I guess everyone just has homo on the brain.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I've always felt the "mages are LGBT" comparison to be pretty forced. Yes, both face hatred for being born a certain way. But, as far I know, gays aren't best known for having potentially dangerous powers, destroying cultures, keeping slaves and physically bringing demons into the world. No, this doesn't justify the treatment of the mages in the Circles, but the people of thedas do have better reasons to be wary than some abstract "god doesn't like it" sentiment.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Well I'm also a lesbian. And I kind of think you are missing the point - we are not dangerous, but society THINKS we are dangerous. Many people today believe that we're destroying the world, thinks we're scum, thinks we're an offensive to their religion. I personally identify with the mages for that reason.

If you choose to be literal about it and refuse to look at any kind of metaphor, then well, duh. Gay =/= mages because mages are literally magical people, and contrary to popular belief, gays are not really that magical. No, the metaphor is not perfect, because in the end, we're still talking about a literal fantasy world. But the parallels are there and I for one appreciate them.

[(Anonymous)]

DA -- I think you're missing each other's points, really.

Identifying with the mages because you've faced similar persecution is understandable. However, society thinks the mages are dangerous because they are dangerous. The level of persecution that they face because of it is far beyond the pale and wrong, but the perceived danger is real. So, as a metaphor, it's wildly imperfect at best. Even at my swishiest, I will never be able to physically harm anyone through the power of my gay, so people wanting to hurt me up for it are stupid and wrong at a level that exceeds people overreacting to a legitimate threat.

I don't see anything wrong with people who sympathize with the mages because they relate to the unfair persecution the mages face from people who hate and fear them. Where I think the comparison falls apart is when people start pulling the "it would be like if they started rounding up gay people and putting them in prisons blah blah blah" bit, because no, it wouldn't be. Now, if they started rounding up everyone named Bob or Tina along with the mages, because "Bob and Tina are obviously Mage names and it's only a matter of time before the Bobs and Tinas of the world rise up and destroy us," then you've got a more apt comparision. :)

[(Anonymous)]

Like someone said above, its not an apt metaphor because it's meant to be a metaphor for the treatment of the mentally ill, not lgbt people.

And mentally ill people absolutely can become dangerous through their mental illness and many people believe that forced institutionalization of, for example, all schizophrenics is justified based on the fact that some may end up dangerous.