[ SECRET POST #2970 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2970 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Big School, David Walliams]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #424.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"It really does bother me that these are the sort of pseudo-romance stories that hit the mainstream, because the prevalence of that sort of thing in media was precisely why I first bought into aforementioned abusive relationship instead of bailing at the first red flag."

But...but...how can that be, anon?! Fantasy and reality are different and everyone knows that and can tell! Fiction doesn't ever influence people, which is why all the criticism of 50 Shades is really just about shaming women!

[(Anonymous)]

(Na)
No need for sarcasm, anon.

Yes, fiction can have influence over people, but in the first place fiction is influenced by society and its culture.
Without preexisting ideas supporting it, fiction doesn't have that much of an influence.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but that's part of the point. Fiction and reality aren't completely separate, and the people acting like they are, and saying you can't criticize the themes in fiction because of it, are ridiculous.

The biggest problem wrt fiction is that it can reinforce those preexisting ideas.

And yeah, I think sarcasm is warranted at this point because I'm fucking frustrated as hell with people who keep insisting there's absolutely no influence in either direction, and every time someone says, "well, actually..." they're met with "you think women are too stupid to tell the difference between fantasy and reality!" The majority of the commenters to the 50 Shades secret the other day were arguing exactly that, and it's stupid, and I'm sick of it.

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(AYRT)

Let's be fair: most people don't talk about 50SoG reinforcing preexisting ideas, but how it could cause women to get into an abusive relationship.

The first is a perfectly valid criticism and I agree completely with it (though I wish people focused more on RL instead of just the books/movie. Fight the disease and not the symptoms and all that), but the second it's just as annoying as the other extreme even if it's intended as an hyperbole.

And I think most people* see 50SoG as a silly fantasy they enjoy reading and not as a romantic ideal, which proves they have far more awareness than they get credit for.

*At least the people I know both offline and online who like 50SoG are like that. There may be exceptions, but that's true for anything.