[ SECRET POST #366 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #366 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE MSPAINT USE A BACKGROUND COLOR, PLEAAAASE

Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 252 secrets from Secret Submission Post #053.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, January 7th, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

25) FUCKING SIGNED. People just brush away the artists like they did'nt spend hours breaking their back while they sat over a fucking tablet creating that shiney picture. People like that don't even have the right to LOOK AT fanart. Like what the fuck. They want to be appreciated for their art, and yet suddenly they are just nameless faces behind the fanart, nobody cares who they are, just how shiney the art is. It's not so damn hard to hunt down the artist and CREDIT, seriously.

47) AHAHHAH OH FUCK. A friend and I spent like, days trying to figure out Seel's gender, from the day I saw her with a SNAKE BITE on the face. I still think she's half and half holy shit. So androgynous.

Re: 47

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

She's female, for sure. Even her character is, she's just a huge tomboy.

[asdhjfbciwu3487.livejournal.com]

25) The best part is when they throw fits about their icons and that they MUST BE credited but they don't bother to give credit to the original artist. If their art is free for anyone to take without credit, then your icon which probably took 1/100th of the time to make should be free for anyone to snag without credit, right?

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

Yeah, exactly. :/ and so many ppl have said "oh well the japanese fanartists are just stuck up and won't answer our emails so we'll just take that as a yes anyway", when silence usually means a no, although most sites say on it "DON'T USE MY ART FOR ICONS AND STUFF" but since they can't be damned to learn japanese...

But yeah, tahts always the stupidest thing. I want to find the original artists, use the icons in all the places wehere they were posted w/ only the original artist credited. haha shitstorm.

[(Anonymous)]

LMFAO YEAH, BRB, LEARNING JAPANESE SO I CAN MAKE ICONS.

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

dude, if you can't READ a website, or can't have a FRIEND read it, don't fucking take shit off it, because YOU CANNOT READ THE DISCLAIMERS.

[(Anonymous)]

YOU SHOULD TOTALLY ALSO NEVER READ THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO UNTIL YOU ARE FLUENT IN FRENCH AND CAN UNDERSTAND ALL ITS COMPLEX SUBTLETIES
OR HOW ABOUT WAR AND PEACE
MAYBE THE BIBLE?

ALSO, FORGET ABOUT USING COMPUTERS AND OR INSTALLING STUFF OR RUNNING ANYTHING AT ALL
GAWD YOU LOSERS
COME ON
HOW HARD IS IT TO LEARN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES
SURE YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT
THAT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
YOU HAVE TO INTIMATELY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

LOL AREN'T YOU THE CLEVAR ONE.

[(Anonymous)]

...That.... uh? What? I mean, yes, it's a clever argument, but... don't you have something else to say? I see you jumping in all over here on #25, but I don't see you following through with any of your arguments once somebody posits a credible/interesting/clever response of an alternative viewpoint.

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

Actually, no, I'm not responding because everytime i do my net slows right the fuck down and there are so many more important things to be doin.

[ccmars.livejournal.com]

CAPS LOCK MAKES ME LOOK SMARTER.

[(Anonymous)]

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER

O LOOK I AM STEERING

[ccmars.livejournal.com]

Most of the disclaimers are in English anyway, so they don't have an excuse.

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

Really? XP I dont tend to peruse sites I can't understand unless they're uber awesome so.

[kyriesanctus.livejournal.com]

Making art breaks backs.

Trufax.

By the way, could you make any less sense? xD Just curious.

[tealizard.livejournal.com]

... No seriously. You try crouching over a computer for 2-4 hours, or over a drawing desk.

[kyriesanctus.livejournal.com]

Gee, I don't know, maybe I already do do that.

[gynophobia.livejournal.com]

I'm an artist, I have a tablet, my back is just fine. If they don't want their art used, there's HTML that prevents print screening imges onto paint or copy/pasta/save right clicky.

If people don't have the right to look at fanart, then the artists shouldn't even post their art.

Also, most of what you said didn't make sense.

[ormery.livejournal.com]

Uh, lol?

I put plenty of effort into heaps of fanart, it gets posted around without my consent quite a lot, and I do not give a sideways flying fuck what people do with it after I've put it up on the internet. Once I've posted it, as far as I care, it belongs to fandom. Fanartists who can't stand their stuff being reposted or used in icons without their express written permission need to get the hell over themselves and recognise that you know what that means? It means people LIKE your stuff. The only reason so many people think this is a "problem" is that most artists, especially ones who post stuff online, are inherently attention whores – I do not hesitate to admit this includes myself. It comes with the "making stuff and then posting it online to show to as many other people at once" territory. So given half the chance to get all self-righteous about something and get everyone to rally to their cause whilst giving them OMG YOU POOR THING backpatting about the fact that someone didn't link back to their webpage to give them more fame ... why aren't they going to jump on that bandwagon. So nearly all fanartists act like that and all their grovelly fans get all bitchy at anyone who doesn't treat the fanart as if the right of the fanartist to get as popular as possible off it is so HUGELY IMPORTANT. Fanartists need to calm down – they can't argue any copyright issues because they don't own anything and the legality is dubious, and a real artist knows the real worth of creating is in the creating itself, not in milking the product for all the hits and praise they can get. Yeah, I whore my fanart around no end because I do like feedback, but the fact is no amount of comments can compare to the satisfaction of finishing a piece I like.

tl;dr

Fanartists who kick up a fuss about this shit need to get over themselves. It's just fanart. We're supposed to be drawing it for fun, and if hits matter so much to someone that they're going to take their stuff down if people don't go out of their way to give them more, then dude, watch me have no respect for them as an artist. Or really as a person cause whatever way you look at it that's just dumb.