[ SECRET POST #2972 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2972 ⌋

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Comments

[visp]

Gladiators predate both Hunger Games and Battle Royale. By, like, Millennia. Also, the themes are very different. Battle Royale is a dozen studies of "What you are when you're a pampered kid who's had everything taken away and now you have to fight for your life" and Hunger Games is a study in one person and and concept of reality TV/fame/publicity/media gone bad.

Also, Battle Royale is good, but it ain't exactly some masterpiece of shining literature. It's not too many notches above hunger games.

[sarillia]

The difference between the two that stands out the most to me is that in Hunger Games it's much more about the wider world, where thoughts of the opponents are all about the reputations of the districts, but in Battle Royale it's about seeing how these long-standing relationships are affected by the situation when people who have known each other for years are forced into this. It could be that I haven't read it since 2008 but I don't remember the pampered kid who's had everything taken away thing at all.

[(Anonymous)]

"I don't remember the pampered kid who's had everything taken away thing at all"

Me neither.

If anything, I remember many of the kids had pretty fucked-up lives before they had to kill anyone and even the some of the ones with a less-shitty life had some issues as a direct or indirect result of the government censorship and oppression.

[visp]

Well, not "pampered" so much as generally more safe and rule-oriented.

[othellia]

Yeah, I almost wish themes weren't harped on as much as they are in school... or rather that they're taught a different way? Because it's like people get overexposed to everything NEEDING a theme and then they end up hating them and then ignoring them? And that sucks because so much of fiction actually is about themes whether they're conscious or not? I have no idea whether or not I'm making sense right now, but whatever.

Point is, like you said, even though BR and HG both focus on kid death arenas, they're completely different because the themes each author decided to explore are completely different. Even Suzanne Collins said she was inspired by flipping through channels and seeing game shows and war coverage right next to each other. The media/reality show portion of it is baked into the story's foundation. If anything, it'd probably be more closely related to the one mini-arc of Doctor Who that had killer reality TV shows as a form of entertaining/subjugating the human race.

And because people tend to go "ugh themes," it's harder to have that type of discussion and becomes the whole "well they both have kid death arenas" instead.

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely find it funny when people hold up BR as a masterpiece in order to tear down HG. It's really, really not.