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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-22 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2972 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2972 ⌋

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Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I would, though I'd also understand why your hypothetical man would be singled out-- because he's conspicuously different from all the other men in the event. But most of the women who walk the red carpet will be wearing expensive designer gowns because it comes with the territory. If they pick a boring outfit as you suggested, they'll be lambasted in the media for their bad taste. Women are pretty much damned if they do, damned if they don't.

But they'd be less damned if people like you stopped insisting that the mere act of wearing even-appropriate clothing in public gives everyone the right to interrogate them about their appearance.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but at least if you get shit for dressing like in somthingboring and uneyecatching, you have a right to complain about that shit.

"I just wore somthing confortable and everyone was shitty to me" is valid
"I just wore a sickenly expensive dress I had costume made and got for free for everyone to see and admire me in and everyone keeps paying attention to it" is not valid.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, right. If a woman wore an unexpensive dress to one of these events and then complained about how people made a fuss, people would just say that if she didn't want that reaction she should have dressed up. So it's more like:

*Dress up, get asked about her dress* 'Well if she hadn't worn a expensive dress people wouldn't have asked about her dress!'

*Not dress up, get insulted for not dressing up* 'Well she should have dressed up, it's a red carpet event!'

Basically there's *nothing* a woman can do in this context to avoid drawing attention to how she dresses.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
This exactly. A little side-eye here for why the previous anon refuses to see how dressing up in a boring, comfy outfit for a red carpet event isn't really a great solution, or why not choosing this option means a woman is of course asking for it when she receives a barrage of dumb questions about her appearance rather than her work.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
So basically your point is that women should be required to commit career suicide before criticizing a stupid system?

Seriously. You're ridiculous. It's a system and a structure with incentives such that people have very little choice. It makes no sense to criticize people for recognizing that even if they're unable to defect.

Re: Oscar Red Carpet

(Anonymous) 2015-02-23 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Do you realize your basic argument is that if a woman wears a 100% appropriate glamorous gown for a glamorous occasion, she gives up the right to object to all the attention the media gives her? How is this different from the suggestion that if a woman goes out in a short skirt, well of course she's going to get skeevy remarks from awful dudes so she deserves it for the choice she made?

Hint: it's not. Women should be able to wear what they like without it turning into a media circus. It is not your place to decide whose complaints are and are not valid, and you're kind of gross for implying that it is.