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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-06 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2984 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2984 ⌋

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Re: "multiple systems"

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-03-07 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I'd sooner leave it to therapists to argue that sort of thing. I don't think most of the folks on FS are really qualified to say someone does or doesn't have any particular mental condition.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Honestly, it disturbs me more when people say "I'm actually half-elf" and claim they're not mentally ill, just a misunderstood half-elf from a video game they played five years ago. Because to me they probably are mentally ill and need help now. Whereas I think people who use the term "systems" are acknowledging their illness - that's just how they deal with it.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Thing is, is it acknowledging your illness if you......don't have that illness? Because the way these people are talking doesn't actually line up at all with clinical accounts of the disorder they claim to have. Surely claiming to have a condition you clearly don't--and, what's most disturbing, treating it like an identity of a kind with queerness or whatever else you want to include in the identity smorgasbord--isn't a a healthy acknowledgement of whatever mental problems might be underlying that. And creating a culture that encourages, praises, and supports this is....really troubling, from where I"m sitting.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well to be fair, if you're faking a mental disorder, then you do have a facticious disorder. So they do have an illness. Just... not the one they are faking.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
DA

...and I learned a new thing today. Thank you, anon.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thing is, real DID comes to be (according to those who even believe it is real) when someone experiences something, as a child, that is so wholly traumatic that their developing brain literally cannot incorporate it into their worldview or general understanding. The brain, essentially, breaks. As a result of trauma. This happens to people who are tortured and raped as children, and there's something that leaves a really bad taste in my mouth about tumblr kids using it as something to be cool and "oppressed" (so they can feel valid when they yell, cuz only "oppressed" people's opinions ever, ever count on tumblr, and their opinions are Gold, so long as they stick to the hivemind).

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you included the "(according to those who even believe it is real)", because including DID/MPD in the DSM is hugely controversial. I think it's more likely to be a therapist-induced condition than it is a spontaneously occurring mental illness of its own.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
:)

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Mind elaborating?

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but a quick google will show you that many authorities disagree on exactly how this disease works, and if it really is a unique condition.

Re: "multiple systems"

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say it's more culture-induced than therapist-induced, like the Wendigo Syndrome among Native AMericans or Jerusalem Syndrome among Abrahamic religions worshippers.

However, you still need to have experienced some kind of trauma that would make you want to believe that you're someone else to begin with. A person with a happy, healthy life doesn't do that.

As a personal example, I suffered abuse as a child and imagining a different person inside me - strong, cool and uncaring - gave me strength and helped me deal with my feelings of hate towards my abusive parents, because it allowed me to visualize the abuse as happening to someone else, while my Cool Self could remain invisible and unbroken. No one suggested it to me directly, but I've seen movies with the concept of MPD, so knowing that it was possible for someone to have an alternate self was what made me visualise it and convince myself it's real.

I only got over it once I grew up, moved far away, broke contact with everone who reminded me of the darker times, and made peace with my past, but I'd be lying if I said that the urge to split doesn't still come back every time I find myself under a lot of stress.
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Re: "multiple systems"

[personal profile] belladonna_took 2015-03-07 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much.

No matter what someone says or does on the internet, I don't know what is actually going in their lives and I'm not qualified for that anyway.

Ignoring people or being polite to them takes less energy than arguing, too.