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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-07 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2985 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude Oz started in 1997. That's not "pre-internet." Internet fandom had been going for years at that point. Did it look the way fandom does today? Not at all, but it was there.

I feel like you might be very young.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-03-07 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1997 was pre-internet for me and probably a lot of people. I mean, yeah, technically, it wasn't pre-internet, but it also wasn't as ubiquitous as it is today, so I don't think it's too off to say 1997 is pre-internet, in a way.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-07 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, but the way it's worded doesn't make it sound like it's an individual thing, but that it was just pre-internet fandom in general. There were a lot of people who weren't online yet in 1997, but there were still lots of fandom spaces and lots of fic being written and posted.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-08 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
there are toddlers today who aren't on the internet. if 15 years from now some of them get into, say, Once Upon a Time, by your logic, they can claim OUaT was a pre-internet show because they weren't online when it was on.

fandoms and fanwork archiving in 2030 will most likely be done a lot differently than they are done today. shit like ao3 may not be around anymore. tumblr could be obsolete.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-08 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, fandom had certainly been online for years at that point, but it was easier for burgeoning fandoms to slip under the radar. Nowadays two cute guys can't look at each other without five fuckyeahnamesquish blogs popping up on Tumblr, but there are things with really small or nonexistent fanbases from the early to late nineties that I think would have had more of a fandom had they come out a few years later.

And Reservoir Dogs came out in 1992, which is decidedly early. It wasn't just toddlers who weren't on the internet back then; many people didn't even own a computer, much less use one to routinely read Mulder/Skinner pr0nz.
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[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2015-03-08 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you understand the term ubiquitous. Toddlers might not be on the internet because they are fucking toddlers, jackass. Toddlers in world were a shit ton of people have internet access readily available at the tip of their fingers. In 1997, the majority of the world didn't have internet access period, much less available readily and quickly.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-08 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean internet fandom wasn't already a significant force within fandom as a whole, though. Whether the majority of the world had access to it or not really doesn't change that. It doesn't negate what the people in online fandom in the 90s did.

Lots of people have never had the means to go to a con but that doesn't mean conventions haven't been a significant thing in fandom for at least 75 years.