[ SECRET POST #2987 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2987 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Umbridge is loathsome because of the contrast between her outward appearance of liking sickly sweet little-girlish things, and her inside nature of complete cold-blooded monster. It's disconcerting and memorable and creepy and extremely, extremely effective, especially because the outside is her true preferences, not a deliberate disguise.

A bit like the Mayor in Buffy, whose creepiness comes from his totally sincere outside appearance of jovial avuncular good ol' boy and his inside nature of megalomaniacal demonic overlord.

On the 0.001% chance you're not trolling.

[(Anonymous)]

I think she probably thinks everything ~overly~ girlish is grotesque.

Most of her more important female characters are ~one of the guys.

[(Anonymous)]

lol, Molly Weasley/Minerva McGonagall = "one of the guys"...

And her female heroine in the Cormoran Strike series is pretty girly, so I'd hold the judgment. The fact that her main character in THIS series is a teenage boy probably has way more to do with the "girly = ewww" vibe (although anyone who thinks Umbridge's grotesqueness came from her fondness of pink frilliness is on crack.)

Not to mention, wouldn't things like love charms/etc be considered "overly girly"? Because there are numerous incidents of Hermione, Ginny and Mrs. Weasley giggling together over those kinds of things.

[(Anonymous)]

But do they count, being older, mature women? Madam Bones was tough as nails no-nonsense as well, wasn't she?

[(Anonymous)]

Hermione never seemed like a "one of the guys" female character at all even though her two best friends were guys. When she was at odds with them about whatever there'd usually be something in the text where she'd be like "ugh, boys" (or Harry and/or Ron would be "ugh, girls").

[(Anonymous)]

Hermione's two best friends are guys but that doesn't make her "one of the guys"... in fact she's upset that they DO view her that way in book 4 when she's annoyed that they don't see her as really a "girl". Not dressing up constantly =/= one of the guys. Hermione's femininity is not shied away from. Luna is her own type of feminine, Ginny was a pretty popular girl, Molly is very motherly, etc etc. None of these, IMO, spell out "one of the guys" just because they're not ONE type of feminine. Even Fleur is treated well despite being the pinnacle of feminine beauty - once everyone realizes she's much more than that. And many of the villain/disliked characters aren't at all "girly". I think Lavender is looked down on ONLY due to the relationship with Ron, and Umbridge is looked down on because she's awful and all the pink and kittens was a very effective and unsettling way to mask it (if girly was bad, it wouldn't be all that weird in the books that Umbridge is terrible)