[ SECRET POST #2990 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2990 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Transformers Prime)


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(Transformers Prime)


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[Wish / Clamp / Manga in this artstyle in general]


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[Terry Pratchett]


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[STRAIN: Strategic Armored Infantry]


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[CSI Cyber]


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[POTC & One Piece]


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[Marvel Comics' Black Widow]


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[James Corden, new host of the LATE LATE SHOW (and for DOCTOR WHO)]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Fallen London]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 017 secrets from Secret Submission Post #427.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If it's written about perfunctorily then that's just bad writing. Because when you compare it to other types of relationships, the relationships between men FAR AND AWAY get the best writing and most screentime.

Of these, which gets the best writing?

Fathers and sons
Brothers
Male best friends

Mothers and daughters
Sisters
Female best friends

Mothers and sons
Fathers and daughters
Opposite sex siblings
Opposite sex best friends

Heterosexual romance
Homosexual romance

etc.

If you look at that list, I PROMISE that fathers and sons, brothers, and male friendships BY FAR get the best writing. The only one that even comes close is heterosexual romance in romance novels/movies.

(Note that this excludes fanworks -- I'm focusing on popular media.)

[(Anonymous)]

saying "well-written platonic relationships between male friends are too rare" actually seems perfectly compatible with your point here, though? It could be the case that it is less rare than good relationships of other types, but still too rare.

(Also I might argue that het romances are probably written more centrally and with more examination than platonic male friendships, but I don't want to get into a big ideological argument about it)

[intrigueing]

I think you're both right. Platonic friendships are not written centrally enough. Gay romances are not written frequently enough. Both are not written well or seriously enough.

The underrepresentation is a lot more severe with gay romances IMO, but both of these issues are just different branches of the same problem -- the overwhelming idea that heterosexual romantic relationships are the be-all end-all of human existence, especially female existence.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I would certainly agree with that.

And I kind of suspect that even the writing of het relationships is probably worse than it could be because of that attitude. It's just a completely dumb attitude towards relationships in general. It's so dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[intrigueing]

+1

Representation numbers of male-male relationships in fanworks and male-male relationships in canon are wildly different. (I personally think they're both on opposite unsatisfying extremes, at least in the fandoms I'm in.) And even in fanworks, female/female relationships of all kinds are still vastly underrepresented. They're the bottom of the totem pole.