[ SECRET POST #2999 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2999 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of don't get this. I've read LOADS of fics where Steve is isolated from the team for a number of reasons: he's the "man out of time" and can't connect, everyone has these huge misconceptions about him and don't give him a chance, he's depressed and isolates himself, etc.

I don't really feel that's offensive.

Plus...Tony's kind of dick sometimes. He can be a real ass to a lot of people and so people are justified in not liking him. That you relate to him doesn't mean they wouldn't like you. It seems a bit silly to have people not able to like him because you relate to him.

Hell, I relate HUGELY to Anakin Skywalker, but I get why people don't like him and I wouldn't dream of telling them not to joke about how whiny and unsympathetic they find him.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, no no, I'm not saying that people aren't allowed to like him. I don't care if every person on Earth doesn't like him.

I was trying to type out an explanation but I realized that maybe it's invalid. All I'm saying is that I been part of friend groups that made fun of me and belittled me behind my back, and I've talked to several other people who have as well. I just don't like it when it's framed as a joke. People can do what they want, but I don't like it.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, I can understand not liking it when someone you relate to is made fun of.

But you have to consider that for some people, Tony can come across as a bit of a bully and so seeing the tables turned is cathartic.

For instance, him saying they should have left Steve on ice and antagonizing him is pretty inexcusable.

Steve had just been woken up for like, two weeks, when New York was invaded. This is a man who recently lost EVERYONE he knew and loved. Who lost his entire world. Whose last action before being frozen alive was to basically to choose to kill himself for the greater good.

Tony's behavior is fucking AWFUL, particularly because he more than most people knows about Steve's life given that his father was a friend. And yet you'll see TONS of people in fandom have STEVE be the one to apologize to Tony.

So...yeah...for some people it's cathartic to see the tables turned a bit.

Doesn't make it right, but you have to remember that Tony isn't completely innocent and acts like a bully himself at times.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, considering the amount of shit he gets away with in canon and fanon, and how many fans excuse and woobify him, I think you can handle a few jokes now and then.

[(Anonymous)]

I am sorry that happened to you (I've experienced similar, myself!), but the difference probably is that Tony is...kind of a huge jerk. Not that I don't love him, 'cause I do, but I'm also 100% for the others in the group doing stuff without him and slamming on him from time to time.