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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-24 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3002 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3002 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye/Transformers: Robots in Disguise]


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[Gary Barlow, Take That]


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[Sherlock Holmes]


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[Criminal Minds/Law and Order: SVU]


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[Gekkan shoujo Nozaki-kun]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (episode: Prom Night)]


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[Breaking Bad]


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[Night Shift]


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[Neil Patrick Harris, Stephen Fry, Neil Gaiman, Stephen Colbert]


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[clockwise from bottom left: Dinosaur Comics, Romantically Apocalyptic, Homestuck, Nedroid, Sfeer Theory, Bite Me!]


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[Dragon Age]









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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 066 secrets from Secret Submission Post #429.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Questions you've never asked

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
They came here in the first place because they wanted a feudal system, and immediately did their best to build one.

You what

Re: Questions you've never asked

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Virginians. That whole "gentleman farmer" fantasy? Plantation culture? Straight-up feudalists fleeing English reforms.

More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion%27s_Seed

Re: Questions you've never asked

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
I would probably agree with the idea that the culture of Virginia was shaped by the groups that are being talked about there, but glossing that as "straight-up feudalists fleeing English reforms" strikes me as being deeply wrong in several different but fundamental ways. I mean, I haven't read the book (although I'd like to; thank you for bringing it to my attention) but I kind of doubt Fischer talks about it in those terms.

I would also point out that there's a pretty substantial difference between "agrarian republicanism" and "feudalism". I mean, you know. Miles and miles of difference. You can certainly talk about elitism and that kind of thing, but that's not the same as feudalism by any means.

Re: Questions you've never asked

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like if there's a tiny elite class that owns >80% of all the land and production apparatus, and a servile class that has no rights except those granted them by the owner class, with a smallish middle class in between selling crap to their betters and their lessers, that's basically feudalism. You can put a democratic hat on it if you want, but if the vote is being denied to that servile class, it's still just feudalism in a hat.

Re: Questions you've never asked

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't think that's in any way a useful or accurate definition of feudalism.

i also think, if that's the definition of feudalism you're going to use, it becomes much harder to trace the connection culturally speaking between the culture of the rural gentry in the south of england with american conservatism. because the connection becomes so broad that it makes it a lot harder to point to specific features of either that link them, if you follow me.