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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-25 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3003 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3003 ⌋

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Re: Are you still a lonely shipper?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Different interpretations and all, but I don't think Barret ever has any romantic interaction of reference at all with anyone (except arguably Cloud). I mean, even references to his wife are not really written romantically, so I can't get how his sexuality is coded either way.

Re: Are you still a lonely shipper?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's why I ship him with Dyne. He seems to have more feelings toward his best friend than his literal wife. Or rather, I ship him with Dyne in the *past,* before the present day plot of FF7 for the same reasons I don't ship him with anyone else in the game. Traumatic things and not being able to get over them are completely able to block romance. If you're so focused on taking a huge corporation down that you don't let anything else get in the way, that includes romance.

Either way, it has nothing to do with him being black, and I don't ship Cloud with anybody at all.

Re: Are you still a lonely shipper?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, and that's cool, I'm not trying to claim that if you don't ship Cloud/Barret you are racist.

I am suggesting, though, that an enormous fandom that has shipped Cloud extensively with minor characters, or characters he hardly interacts with, and loves slash, that there's something fishy about Cloud/Barret being nonexistent in the fandom. Especially since Barret ticks all the boxes of a popular romance option, not to mention the game uses the possibly pairing for humor (Barret being a date option, Cloud being able to tell Don Corneo that Barret's his boyfriend, etc). The fact that the pairing is overlooked completely is just odd to me, and frankly, I think if Barret weren't black, this wouldn't be the case.

Re: Are you still a lonely shipper?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think it would've helped if those options hadn't been so obviously played for laughs in the game.

I found those scenes funny but not emotionally real like Barret's interactions with all of Corel or even with Cloud when he shows support of him at later points like post Aeris death. I guess what I'm trying to say is there are plenty of scenes where Barret and Cloud *do* have 'emotional talks' for lack of better words, and I can see where someone would ship Cloud/Barret, I just personally don't... but the date scene and the fact that Cloud can tell Corneo of all people that someone is his boyfriend are not the scenes I'd choose to point to if/when arguing for the ship. To me it actually detracts from rather than supports the ship imo *because* it makes it out to be a joke like lolol how ridic is this and nobody should be taking it seriously!!

Like the ability to make Zell's favorite color pink in FF8. LOLOL a guy liking pink, it's funny right? Even if it *were* canon by word of god the game plays it in a way that most people would assume it's a joke so most players would assume the opposite, that it's *not* true.

Re: Are you still a lonely shipper?

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
SA

TL;DR I can see why you'd ship it but I think a lot of why other people don't ship it is because the game makes it out to be a joke.

I don't know anyone else who ships Barret/Dyne though so lol @ me too I guess
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Re: Are you still a lonely shipper?

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-03-26 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
shipped Cloud extensively with minor characters

Where were you going to see Cloud extensively shipped with anyone but Tifa, Aeris, or Sephiroth?