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Comments

Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

I just saw one of those troll pics listing examples of black privilege but all of them were bullshit and pretty stupid.

Now I'm wondering if black privilege does exist in predominantly white countries. Can you think of any examples?

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my god this thread is going to be a mess.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

As compared to what?

White privilege? No. Other minorities? Maybe, but starting to compare those doesn't end anywhere nice.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

I think it depends on how you define privilege. Certainly not insitutionalized "privilege", but maybe in like a very specific sub-culture or community or something, idk.

Still, a good rule of thumb is, that if someone is claiming that black people have "privilege", that person is probably an idiot.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Uhm, quotas and special scholarships? Maybe. I'm not sure

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Eh...kind of. If a culture believes that races are objectively real classifications of human beings, they may take the position that certain things are "all right" for blacks and not for whites.

Unfortunately, the tiny amounts of black "privilege" ("You can say 'nigger'! You go, you!") in--let's be honest--the USA are entirely dwarfed by the abuse and contempt the legal system heaps on blacks.

"Getting" to do stuff that would be "low-class" for a white person in no way makes up for being in far more danger from the police.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

In 2007, black high school students were more likely than Hispanic and white students to have ever had sex, 66.5% of black students, 52% of Hispanics, and 43.7% of whites.

This is black privilege.

e.e

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's not.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

You can rape, rob, go round with illegal guns, attack people, and point guns at cops and when you get shot people will defend you as a good boy who din du nuffin and was turning your life around before the cops ~executed you in broad daylight just because you tried to kill them~

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Every time you show up with this little speech, I get more and more embarrassed for you.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

oh for fuck's sakes.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[feotakahari]

I once tried to read a fapfic that interrupted itself with a massive rant about how liberals never suspect black men of being pedophiles. I could barely keep a straight face.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[ill_omened]

Hahaha.

This is an actual thing interestingly enough. It's one of those crimes where there's an incredibly set profile people believe in despite the idea being nonsense.

Same applies to mass shooters and serial killers.

People are so sure they'll write endless paragraphs of bullshit on the flawed assumption, and get incredibly mad when someone points out everything they've argued is built on a false assumption.

MCAT scores

[(Anonymous)]

It is MUCH, MUCH easier for a black person to get into medical school than a white person and, especially, an Asian person.

I understand the logic of this for undergraduate -- you want a variety of people with a broad range of life experience.

But for med school this makes NO SENSE to me. Doctors have people's LIVES in their hands.

If we end up with 90% Asian doctors than so be it, but I want my doctors to be THE BEST.

Re: MCAT scores

[herpymcderp]

Look, as someone who has taken the MCAT, it's really not all that indicative of how good you're going to be at medicine. It's very indicative of whether or not you're good at studying specific material and doing physics or chemistry problems on the fly with no calculator.

That's about it. It doesn't say whether or not you're going to be able to deal with the position emotionally or be able to solve problems or be able to connect to and interact with patients or any of the myriad other skills actually required for being a good physician.

But you know what is more important than that? Having good life experience. The best doctors are not the ones with the best grades. They just aren't. This is the entire reason they weight volunteer experience so highly on entrance requirements and have stopped handing out spots in medical school to people who just got high marks.

I understand your concern here, but you're just so wrong.

Re: MCAT scores

[(Anonymous)]

Well of course. MCAT scores are just one factor.

But the fact of the matter is that black people ARE privileged in this area.

Plus, not all doctors require good life experience or even patient interaction.

Pathologists for example.

Surgeons can also be this.

But the point is simply to state that if you have an Asian candidate and a Black candidate that are basically equivalent, the black candidate will get the spot in med school. Which is privilege. Just like white people and legacies.

Re: MCAT scores

[(Anonymous)]

Re: MCAT scores - the argument is, not just that MCAT scores are not totally indicative of ability as a doctor, but more specifically, that MCAT scores are not accurate reflectors of the potential skill of a candidate particularly when categories of race and class are involved.

In other words (on this line of thinking) - it could be that by adjusting the scoring scales, you're actually securing better doctors overall, because candidates whose MCAT scores are depressed by outside factors will be able to overcome that disability.

Re: admissions more generally, I don't think that it's true for a black person to get into medical school than a white person. I think it's easier for a black person to get into medical school provided that they've done all the other things you need to do to get into medical school.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[caerbannog]

No.


Scholarships and support are to help even out an unlevel playing field and are not a privilege. If you think they are, you're a giant idiot.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

privilege
ˈprɪvɪlɪdʒ':

noun

1. a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.
"education is a right, not a privilege"

synonyms: advantage, right, benefit, prerogative, entitlement, birthright, due; More

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Education is increasingly becoming a plutocracy, meaning that it is becoming more of a privilege than a "right".
Just had to point out the irony of your example definition

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Your dictionary definition does not encompass the full scope of what we're talking about when we talk about "privilege," though. It's a really limited definition that constitutes what the word means when we use it in a general sense, but it doesn't consider the context any more than looking up any other word in the dictionary. In these discussions, the context is the systemic privilege conferred by birth or circumstance into a specific culture that values certain traits over others; attempts to correct this by allotting certain advantages to groups marginalized by this system (such as diversity scholarships) is not magically transferring that privilege to them, because the overall structure remains.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Most help is focused on certain groups while excluding other groups that also need that help, tho.
So even if it "evens out" the playing field for some people, many are still excluded.

(I'm saying this as someone who had to give up on studying because I couldn't afford it and didn't "qualify" for any kind of scholarship/support. Now I have to deal with bad paid jobs just to survive [while knowing things can get worse and then I'll have nothing *and* I still can't except any help if it gets to that] and I'll never be able to do anything with my life. But hey, I'm not the right kind of poor so I don't deserve even the privilege of a chance to get a scholarship or anything else)

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

In the traditional sense of how privilege is understood? No. That whole systemic/structural power thing is bigger than any individual community, so even if you have some kind of favor within a community (for example, inside your predominantly Black church there exists some resistance to accepting white members), that doesn't erase the overall structure of white privilege, even if that experience might be alienating for the individual white person.

In terms of relations to other marginalized groups? I'm not sure terming it "privilege" is going to get you far, as it tends to assume a hierarchical system and a lot of scholars and activists reject comparing marginalized groups in that way. But there are certainly *tensions* that arise in the difference between the ways groups are treated. For example, when we talk about racism in the U.S., it's commonly framed as a black-and-white issue, which obviously neglects to even include other people of color in the conversation, but I'm not sure whether that's considered "privileging" blackness or if there's a better word for it. Another example might be specific to black communities, in which some people might be accused of "acting white" (though again, that's typically understood as a way of policing others in response to that overarching structure of white privilege, not "privileging" blackness). You might also look into the experiences of multiracial people to see how that really complex process plays out? I'm not sure we call any of those scenarios privilege in the formal sense, and in none of those are black people privileged over white people specifically.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Not on a large, widespread, systemic scale. On a more localized basis, yeah, sometimes.

Example: White people who apply for public assistance in majority-black neighborhoods where the DHS staff is all or mostly black, may find themselves getting a runaround which black applicants in the same neighborhood, at the same office, do not experience.

Anybody who holds any power, even if it's only small-time power in a limited context, can potentially choose to play favorites and bestow privilege.

Re: Is there such a thing as Black Privilege?

[(Anonymous)]

Hilariously enough, Canada has a similar situation where a lot of people think Aboriginals are "privileged" as well. But that is going to open a whole other can of worms.