[ SECRET POST #3004 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3004 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

13. http://i.imgur.com/ccnIeaf.png

[(Anonymous)]

I backbutton out of something if it rubs me the wrong way in general, whether it's het or slash. No discrimination here.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like I'm this way about gay couples versus straight couples in any entertainment I watch/read. Like I'm far more likely to enjoy a gay couple in spite of it's problems but a het couple really needs to be free of tropes and disfunction for me to enjoy it.

I realized this when I realized most of my canon OTPs are lesbian couples and I often don't like the straight ones in the same series.

I think it's because straight romance is done so often I get sick of it's problems a lot quicker.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, just for me, I definitely don't think that's the case (as someone where most of my canon OTPs are also lesbian couples). Because I'll put up with plenty of problems when it's a straight romance that I actually like and that actually appeals to me. I mean, it doesn't feel to me like I'm just so completely used to straight romances that hit the spot for me that I can afford to be a connoisseur and pick and choose. It's more that, although straight romance is done often, it's rarely done in a way that actually appeals to me.

And I wonder how much of that ties in to the old idea that part of the appeal of slash and/or femslash is the relative freedom from gender roles and expectations and norms. IE, that straight romance ships tend to be unappealing more frequently because they're freighted with the weight of societal expectations.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Actually that's probably part of it now that I think about it. I wouldn't say straight romances are always written well, like yes there are a lot to choose from, but there's a lot of BAD to choose from.

I still wonder if maybe I give gay couples a little more leeway because no matter their problems, it doesn't feel as tired as it does when it's a straight couple.

Like basically a straight couple will be written badly, and that sucks enough on it's own, but then you'll have to see that same situation written about 50 more times across all different media. And that's where it goes from bad to unbearable.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I would definitely agree that a badly written straight romance annoys me way more than a badly written gay romance. Unbearable is not a bad word at all, really.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, that completely makes sense to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Did I write this secret in my sleep. Are you secretly me op.

But anyways I know what you mean. I have a veeeerry specific type of het ship. It's pretty rare too, so I almost never read or ship it in general.
I'm pretty much okay with whatever when it comes to the gays tho.

[(Anonymous)]

same. personally I think it's because I'm annoyed of sexism. even if a dynamic is seemingly free of sexists tropes, it always has to position itself to it- by subversion, lamp shape hanging, allusion, efuckingcetera.

Now that a lot of policing is happening in my fandom about how to ship and be a fan of women, I feel a similar, although more avoidable, aversion against f/f.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it has to do with level of investment for me personally. If I love a couple (such as my latest favorite slash couple) then I'll read everything and like most of it. I'm much more leery of het due to previous canon burns and so I'm more critical.

Any femdom recs?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm highly sensitive to how the women are treated in fiction, so much that it can really spoil my enjoyment of a story. That's natural when in real life, you're often at the bottom of the heap due to sexism. Also a lot of male authors write women really badly so I've been burned in the past pretty bad.

It's worse in a fanfic sex scene because I have an expectation that the female character's body will work roughly the same as mine does. This is usually not the case. Even though it's natural that not all women are the same, I get thrown out of the fic by that so hard that it's like I bump when I hit the ground.

However, I do like het femdom. Any recs? I'm not fussy about which fandom, though Oglaf would be nice. It's even canon.

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: arty black and white photograph of a naked man and woman

Text: I can enjoy both slash and het, but over the years I’ve found I’m just so, so much more specific about what I like in het. For het fic or art the tropes and the kinks I like must be almost EXACTLY right, while I’ll devour gay smut if it’s just vaguely related to my likes. Not to mention that some kinks work for me on men, but not women.

Sometimes I honestly wonder if I’m projecting, but I’m ten times more likely to backbutton out of het than of slash, if there’s a thing that rubs me the wrong way.

This is also why I read way more m/m stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if it's projecting, but I find I identify to the point of self-consciousness when it comes to female characters in het smut. It's irrational but I feel more judged for my taste/preferences when it comes to someone 'like me' and that makes me too uncomfortable to enjoy it.

With M/M I can take me and anything that relates to me on a physical level out of the equation and find that more enjoyable.

[were_lemur]

Maybe it's sleep deprivation getting to me, but I can't stop giggling about the phrase "rubs me the wrong way" in a secret about porn.

[(Anonymous)]

One thing I noticed a lot is that there's a ton of heteronormative gender roles which characters get forced into. Sort of like people who complain about m/m pairs getting shoved into uke and seme roles, the awesome space fighter captain woman might get tons of fic where she becomes OOC domestic and loses all sense of personality.

I hear a lot of people noping out of het couples because of that.