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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-26 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3004 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3004 ⌋

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[Terry Pratchett and his daughter]


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(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly can't imagine how someone can take online trolls seriously. Esp someone who is famous so it isn't like doxxing is even a threat.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Because they can take your career away in a heartbeat, and all you have to do is say the wrong thing. Or have someone say you said the wrong thing. Poof, you're done.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Not if people are trolling you for no reason. Like...what are they going to do? Just ignore them and they go away.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
People weren't trolling her "for no reason". It was a serious and organised campaign of harassment for being a female comics writer, including spreading nasty rumours about her to professional writers and editors to make people not want to work with her and be tarred with the same brush. The professional creative world runs on connections, and this kind of organised trolling has serious career effects. It doesn't surprise me that being constantly undermined like that and not being able to fight back leads to serious mental harm. Let alone the stalking and rape threats.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously? There have been cases of people finding people's personal information and using it to call people's bosses to try and get them fired or to make threatening phonecalls.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I am talking about doxxing like someone in the picture. Someone famous who is well-known.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I suggest you google Mark David Chapman.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep - I was threatened with that, when I was doxxed - fortunately my doxxer was A) posturing and B) managed to screw himself and get which employer i worked for at the time wrong. He posted my position title and department correctly, though, which gave me more than a little pause. This was long before any of this kind of thing was considered at all a bad, so he got away with it. But, yeah, it seems like nothing, until the threats start getting serious enough to do IRL damage.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Like others said this sort of thing can seep into reality and many people who are well known online have received very REAL threats that they had to call the authorities about.

Some people are also just not equipped to deal with trolls. I can handle them being around sometimes but I think my own mental illness would make it hard for me if I had to deal with them all the time.

Trolls can be determined too, I've seen people change accounts and attempt to escape by not even talking about past drama anymore, but the trolls will follow them even if it's been YEARS since any incident that caused the trolling in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Say that logged in under your own name. It is far easier to dismiss the trolls when you are anon, or have a disposable online persona, but when you put your real self online, then it is your real and unprotected self that is viciously attacked. It is the same denial of self, and denial ability to interact with the world, that trolls destroy online as it is that stalkers and domestic abusers destroy in person.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
DA That's a good point. It's one thing if you have trolls around and you're under an online persona and it's not linked to your career at all, but there are a lot of people who have their name up online for all to see because it links in with their career.

If I was getting harassed I don't know what I'd do, it's be so hard for me because my online presence helps me get jobs.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Doxxing usually involves connecting the dots between your nick and your RL name, though; that's kind of what doxxing is.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
DA. Doxxing is about revealing personal information, which is not always about just a name.

You know the name of several celebrities I'm sure but do you know much information about them beyond that? Like their address? Or phone number? Doxxing often reveals all that information.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-27 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
The internet is the entire life of many people. Other users aren't just AI, they're actual people. And famous people have private lives just like the rest of us.