[ SECRET POST #3004 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3004 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but the difference seems to be, to me, that I see slash as a whole called fetishizing FAR more than I'll see fetishization applied to the others.

Specific ships with racist overtones or ships with abuse dynamics obviously deserve to be called out.

But I see slash -- as a whole, not just specific ships or fics -- get called fetishizing A LOT more. Whole swathes of people get dismissed as being fetishizing purely for being cis and straight.

[(Anonymous)]

Perhaps because fetishization is more of a problem among slashers? There's not always a conspiracy.

Just from what I've read here I wonder if you're new to fandom or shipping, because slash fandom has a laundry list of issues that goes back decades, and the topic of slashers fetishizing homosexuality has long held a place of honor on that list.

[(Anonymous)]

I find that hard to believe because -- in general -- I don't see a huge difference between slash and het in terms of how it approaches the characters and the problems they overcome.

Even things like kink memes generally have prompts requested and filled for het and slash that are pretty similar.

Are there subgroups of slash fans that can be fetishistic? I think so -- I think you could make an argument that A/B/O is fetishistic.

But when people try to act like "slash" as a whole if fetishistic it sounds to be like they're saying "interracial shipping" is fetishistic and it seems like just another cudgel to hate on something that's popular that you don't like.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you're very lucky in your experiences then, if you haven't encountered many fetishistic slash fans. I read things at least weekly that are so creepily fetishistic that they make me feel genuinely uncomfortable. I can see why you would think that people only hate on it because it's popular if you haven't experienced these things first hand.

[(Anonymous)]

What counts as fetishization though? I mean, fetishization that is unique to slash ships. I see het ships enforce gender stereotypes just as often as slash ships. Yet, it's never really a problem for het ships because it's 'normal' for the girl to be submissive and small while the guy has to be dominant and experienced in sex even if the actual characters are nothing like that.

There is the same type of submissive/dominate fetishization for both het and slash, but only ever called out on slash ships because they tend to be more popular than het ships in a lot of fandoms.

Or is it just finding out a hetero person is writing slash that makes it fetishization? Because I've seen people who fall under all parts of the LGBT spectrum enforce the gender stereotypes in shipping.

So yeah, it's not hard for me to believe that it's just shippers upset their ship is not more popular while disguising it as social justice to make it seem less petty.

[(Anonymous)]

Fetishization isn't just about gender stereotypes...