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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-04 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #3013 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3013 ⌋

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Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-04 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The guy who created Wonder Woman was a note worth psychologist in a committed three-way marriage, AND was instrumental in the development of the Polygraph machine.
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Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-04-04 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
His name, FTR, was William Moulton Marston.

His official wife, Elizabeth, was instrumental in both of those things, as well (I can't remember exactly her role in creating Wonder Woman, but it was an observation by her about how her blood pressure tends to react to stress that set William down the road that ultimately led to the polygraph), and their lover, Olive Byrne, was the physical model for Wondie.

Also, after William's death, Olive and Elizabeth continued to live together, until Olive's death. Elizabeth herself lived to be 100.
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Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-04 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
William Moulton Marston was a really interesting guy. I really wish I knew more about Olive and Elizabeth, because they also seem like really interesting people, but haven't encountered as much about them.

--Rogan
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Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2015-04-04 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Elizabeth was really something. I accidentally downplayed her, even! While what I said about her observation re: blood pressure is true, she was with him right to the end of the project, and their final results served as his Doctoral dissertation and her Masters dissertation (the Doctoral program wasn't open to women, so the Masters was as far as she was allowed to go). Had they been born 30 years later, she'd have been at least as successful as he was.

Sadly, I don't know much about Olive beyond her relationship with the Marstons, either...seems to be the only thing she did of note. Though given that the Marstons were attracted to her, we can assume she was a remarkable woman in her own right, who unfortunately grew up in the first quarter of the 20th century and wasn't able, for whatever reason, to make her own opportunities, like Elizabeth did.
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Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I did some very brief research into Marston for an LGBT comics talk I did a while back, and was kind of sorry I couldn't research them more. (Comics history has a LOT of colorful characters in it, both in the pages and making them.) It's too bad those women faced such restrictions in their time period; some historians paint them as perverts or kooks, but in what little I saw, they seemed like people I'd get along with.

--Rogan

Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-05 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
The Secret History Of Wonder Woman, by Jill LePore.

Trust me. I've never seen such a great piece of research.
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Re: Tell me something interesting, FS.

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-05 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck yeah! Thanks, anon!

--Rogan