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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-06 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3015 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3015 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Puzzle & Dragons (Japanese Mobile Phone game)]


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03.
[Thunderbirds]


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04.
[Avenged Sevenfold]


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[Umineko no Naku Koro ni]


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(Donald Tusk, President Of The European Council)


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[The Hobbit]


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[Nicholas Lea]


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[Vocaloid]


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[Grimm/Angel]


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(the Tale of the Princess Kaguya)


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[Jimmy Carr and Sarah Millican]


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[The Phantom of the Opera]


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[How to get away with murder/Liza Weil]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Inazuma Eleven]


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(Aiden Turner in Poldark)


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[Star Trek: Into Darkness]


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[Nathan Fillion]


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[Harry Potter]


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[Sherlock]


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[MCU/The Avengers (film series)]


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[Gillian Anderson]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 106 secrets from Secret Submission Post #431.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a special education major with a minor in social work. After graduation, I planned on volunteering with a program that sends teachers to developing countries to teach educators/schools how to create programs for specials needs students.

Someone on Tumblr said that was bad because I am white. So I automatically have a white savior complex. : /

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
That's ridiculous. You want to go help people who don't have the same resources they do in developed countries. That's not having a white savior complex, that's wanting to help people. White savior would be- well, shitty movies that you're not in.
blitzwing: ([magi] Jafar)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-07 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Planned? I hope you haven't changed your mind, nonny, on the basis of one Tumblr person. I've seen Tumblr users argue that learning Spanish is an act of cultural appropriation. I'm sure you could do a lot of good if you went.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT (though I am the anon who replied above you) - really? Spanish is cultural appropriation? People are ridiculous.
lb_lee: A happy little brain with a bandage on it, enclosed within a circle with the words LB Lee. (oplz)

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-07 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Man, better let Texas know so they have another reason to complain about bilingual education! *eyeroll*

--Rogan

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking as a Texan, you might want to rethink that. Most of don't complain - or are even against - bilingual education. Hell, the government is actually supporting spreading a program that teaches kids in both English and another language* with the end result is the kids being bilingual.

Pretty sure it's Arizona you're thinking of.

*Usually Spanish
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-07 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I was from Texas myself, actually. There were a few assholes who complained about it. But yeah, Arizona is the real hardass, you're right about that. (Yech.)

--Rogan

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(Anonymous) - 2015-04-07 21:19 (UTC) - Expand

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[personal profile] lb_lee - 2015-04-07 21:24 (UTC) - Expand
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-07 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, want to hear some of their reasons?

"But it IS appropriation for white people to learn PoC languages because most PoC living in the West are forbidden to speak their languages like Spanish or Arabic and once white hipsters start speaking those languages freely those languages lose all significance to PoC as far as resistance against Western culture goes. "

" wrote THIS blog post two years ago about the new trend in white people speaking Spanish and becoming Spanish teachers and how this constitutes a form of cultural appropriation and I got called every name in the book because how dare I stop white people from learning Spanish when it’s a white language to begin with etc etc etc and I was juts STUNNED at the level of ignorance and privilege they displayed. One of my earliest memories is my dad scolding me for speaking Sinhala and telling me to speak English, so when I see white folks adding ‘exotic’ languages to their resume like beads and then getting praise for 'being well rounded’ I’m like HELLO POC have been well rounded forever, we’re STILL better rounded than most white people but I guess the things we do like codeswitching and synthesizing cultures doesn’t count because of our brown skin."
othellia: (Default)

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[personal profile] othellia 2015-04-07 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
But, like, non-Hispanic white people have always been Spanish teachers. It's been America's default middle school/high school/college foreign language credit since forever.
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-04-07 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, one of my (non-Hispanic white) Spanish teachers had been teaching since the 70's. I really have no idea how someone could think it's a new phenomenon.

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[personal profile] othellia - 2015-04-07 02:57 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone from California, and basically, as it seems anyone from the Western states or those with a larger Spanish-speaking population, or hell, being an American in general, why the fuck would you not learn Spanish?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
No, I still plan on doing so. But it sucks to have someone (that you think is a cool person), tells you that volunteering is bad because black kids should not have only a white person as their role model. This is ignoring the fact that I'd be working with local teachers and I assume that children in other countries have other role models.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Even cool people can be very, very wrong sometimes. And how in the world would you be their *only* role model? It makes zero sense.
lb_lee: A happy little brain with a bandage on it, enclosed within a circle with the words LB Lee. (oplz)

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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-04-07 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Well then, they can go take their self-righteous smugness and help special needs students with THAT.

(Seriously, don't let people stop you from helping others just because they're armchair slacktivists who believe it's better to do nothing than possibly do something wrong.)

--Rogan
othellia: (Default)

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[personal profile] othellia 2015-04-07 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like people who say that have only "signal boosting" as their main contribution to actual social justice/work stuff.

Go out and do good, anon.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously, to avoid being a white saviour, you could lean towards being a white oppressor. Then you could make Tumblr happy at last!

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, may as well.

Seriously, the whole idea is inane. Whiteness is a learned social construct, and defined differently in different countries.

When you get to a poor country, you're going to be a foreigner from a rich country, and "white" merely your complexion. All this racial consciousness stuff you were taught in the USA will be just a hangup from your old culture. Toss it. It's not real.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
But I am terrible at oppressing stuff! My cat won't even get off my desk when I tell him too.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That's cause you're aiming too high. You have to start off small, like oppressing the human race, before you even think about the cats.
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

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[personal profile] dahli 2015-04-07 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who lives in a developing/third-world country: I, for one, welcome our new white overlords.

Honestly don't pay them mind, OP. They are not the ones who need that sort of thing, my country does.

Sometimes, when they throw around the world privilege I just roll my eyes and laugh because damn, you really gotta be a privileged brat to be throwing that word around. They do need to get educated on what being privileged means.
caerbannog: (Default)

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-04-07 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Roll your eyes and continue your plans to go help develop the programs. Intercontinental communication knowledge exchange and all that.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 08:24 am (UTC)(link)
okay obviously I and every other normal person disagree with that kind of radical, and frankly stupid opinion, but what exactly is the point of this thread other than an obvious request for backpats for being 'right' against the evil SJW?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, I agree with you. I rolled my eyes into the next state when I saw it, and I'm not even an SJW myself.
caerbannog: (Default)

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[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-04-07 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was a pretty obvious request for a bit of reassurement and soothing some hurt feelings. Nothing so 'major' as backpats for being right against an ~evil SJW~

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-07 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
If it weren't for this thread I wouldn't have known that some people actually think learning Spanish is cultural appropriation. That is... that is beautiful.