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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-04-07 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3016 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3016 ⌋

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houtarouh: (sailor moon)

[personal profile] houtarouh 2015-04-08 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I find Disney's logic/double-standard funny: this is okay to be released on blu-ray ("Dumbo" also has stereotypes with the crows. Disney has also released the Nazi Donald Duck on DVD as well), but "Song of the South" and the uncut "Fantasia" can not be released to the public? At least Warner Brothers puts a warning on their blu-ray/DVD releases. While we understand that it's wrong, it was just the product of the times and to delete it from history makes it as if it never happened.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-08 09:44 am (UTC)(link)
What have they cut from Fantasia????

(Anonymous) 2015-04-08 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
probably the black slave centauress

(Anonymous) 2015-04-08 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, pretty much, although probably less because she was a servant and more because her design is a 40s-style racist caricature.
houtarouh: (han solo)

[personal profile] houtarouh 2015-04-08 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the one. Sunflower the centaur was deleted because of the centaur being a racist caricature. You can watch that here.

However, another thing that was cut from "Fantasia" was Deems Taylor's original narration. You can read about that here.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-08 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know what they're talking about because I have a copy of Fantasia that has the full version and mostly what it has extra is more description by the host of what each segment is going to include. None of the cartoons themselves have been cut down at all.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-08 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
They're talking about this:

http://coilhouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/sunflower01.jpg

Which yes, WAS in the movie and has been cut out from release.
I love Disney and Fantasia, but it is important to remember that this stuff happened and I wish Disney would at least put it in a deleted scenes or something with a little intro about it like they did with the racist shorts. Hiding these things helps no one.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-04-08 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
For some reason that looks faintly familiar, like I've seen it around before.

But yeah, at least own up to it having happened and say it was removed because Disney saw sense.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-08 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Disney did release their racist shorts though (My copy of Mickey Mouse in Black and White Vol 1 has them all in a separate part of the DVD with an intro by Leonard Maltin explaining why they're not in the playlist with the others and encouraging viewers to discuss it with their kids) while Warner Brothers has the banned 11 that have never seen the light of day.

That's just to clarify. I'm completely with you in that I wish both companies (all companies!) would just release this stuff instead of pretending it didn't happen. It sucks and it's awful, but it happened.