[ SECRET POST #3017 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3017 ⌋

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Comments

[herpymcderp]

Being scientifically literate. It took my extended family not teaching their kids what a cell is to make me realize the horror of the religious layperson's existence.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, you just trolling cause theyre styling on you

[herpymcderp]

Oh lawd I wish I were trolling. My homeschooled cousins literally do not know what cells are. I had to explain it.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing that I'd consider trolling is the statement/implication that this is typical of religious laypeople? Not so much that part of things.

[herpymcderp]

It is of the ultraconservative type of religious laypeople my extended family is. Probably should have been more clear on that point.

[(Anonymous)]

Rather.

[al28894]

Yikes. I wish I can say I have that sort of experience, but not even my religious relatives are that bone-headed. Are you still in touch with your relatives or have you cut them off entirely from your life?

[herpymcderp]

Cut them off years ago. No regrets, as they would almost certainly have disowned me for being bisexual anyway.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

As someone who is religious (though I consider myself to be moderately liberal), I find that sort of thing to be neglectful. I went to church schools, but I suppose for someone so conservative they must home-school even letting their children learn any basic science is some sort of affront.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean midichlorians aren't real? Damn you church of Anakin Skywalker

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds more like you stumbled into a group that's weird, than out of one tbh.

I mean, maybe I've just been extremely lucky, but I live in a pretty religious area [and, actually, more than one] and I don't think I've run across someone who didn't know the basics like that.

[herpymcderp]

Yeah I was unclear. I realize there are a multitude of different types of "religious" and my extended family falls somewhere on the fringes of Christian fundamentalist.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Ah, yeah. The fundies can be...interesting, to say the least.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude. They're on the fringes, all right, but I wouldn't say of Christianity. What about the whole "fearfully and wonderfully made" passage, and others like it, that encourages people to study science/nature/the environment, etc. ("Consider the lilies ... clothed finer than Solomon.") The Bible even encourages rational astronomy (and discourages astrology), after all! (Albeit, three-thousand-year-old astronomy, but, eh, you know what I mean.)

Sorry. That's my rant ranted.

[herpymcderp]

Well maybe. There's nothing barring a love of god and of science from existing in the same person (I know, because that more or less describes my SO's younger brother) but it does seem that as a general rule religious faith is inversely proportional to scientific literacy.

At least where I'm from. I can't claim to speak for other cultures.

[(Anonymous)]

there's definitely a correlation there but IMO it's a pretty open question as to why

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just religious laypeople who are scientifically illiterate. Sadly, I know people who don't adhere to a religion in a super strict manner that lack basic scientific knowledge (e.g. that the norovirus cannot be prevented with a flu shot). One of them is a teacher. Goddammit.

[herpymcderp]

Well, that's partially my point, but I didn't get into it because the example I used was poorly chosen (if one of the more egregious examples). Scientific literacy is just so damn rare outside of academia these days, it seems.

I kind of want to throttle people who claim that higher education is useless because "we have Wikipedia now". No. NO.

[blitzwing]

I kind of want to throttle people who claim that higher education is useless because "we have Wikipedia now".

You mean Tumblr. We have Tumblr now.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, please. You know perfectly well that "being scientifically literate" is not the kind of thing this thread is about. Knowing what a cell is is not unusual by any stretch of the imagination, and acting like it makes you special is stupid. You don't sound smart, you sound obnoxious. Please take your pretension and your condescension, your equation of religious belief with scientific illiteracy (and your equation of homeschooling with poor education and religious conservatism, for that matter), and your perennial refusal to engage with the conversation at hand, and remove yourself from this thread unless you've got something to contribute that's relevant and not rude.

[(Anonymous)]

Did... you actually read the thread? Because some other people criticized the Herpy One for exactly what you're saying and then he was like "Oh, yeah, sorry, I fucked up, that's not what I meant". So... you just come across like kind of an a-hole.

[herpymcderp]

tl;dr

I corrected myself a few times upthread, so whatever you think I'm actually implying is probably not that.